david Site AdminPosts: 27548Joined: 04/12/2001votes: 59
06/30/2026 - 04:01 PM
The end of the Kawhi Leonard era is here as the Clips decided not to extend him and traded
him to the Raptors for Brandon Ingram, Gradey Dick + 2 first rounders, a first round
pick swap, and 2 second rounders.
What do you guys think? This immediately puts the Clippers out of playoffs contention
IMO but there are still moves to be made, players to be signed, so we'll see. But
certainly the trade helps the Clippers going forward with these picks and
swap.
pageC4 CNS MVP X2Posts: 9800votes: 56
06/30/2026 - 04:34 PM
Even the ESPN Trade Machine doesn't show Kawhi on our team anymore. YES! YES!
YES!
I am not the guy who favors a complete build through picks. You never know how they pan
out and how the coaches nurture them but with a 35 year old with questionable knees, I
am all in for this trade and happy with the haul we got.
Trust the FO as they kept the franchise as one of the winningest in the regular season in the
2010-2020 decade. The health issues bought us down in the playoffs. Hope they make
some trades and keep us competitive without sacrificing much of our young talent
and/or future picks.
I might be in the minority of the fanbase but that’s how I believe so that the
team is watchable from the get go and make my wine even more delectable…lol.
david wrote:
The end of the Kawhi Leonard era is here as the Clips decided not to extend him and
traded him to the Raptors for Brandon Ingram, Gradey Dick + 2 first rounders, a first
round pick swap, and 2 second rounders.
What do you guys think? This immediately puts the Clippers out of playoffs contention
IMO but there are still moves to be made, players to be signed, so we'll see. But
certainly the trade helps the Clippers going forward with these picks and swap.
Trueblood CNS MVP X1Posts: 2595Location: 10 miles north of INTUIT DOME votes: 19
06/30/2026 - 06:21 PM
The picks go like this:
2027 first round swap option for the Clips
2030 2nd rounder
2031 and 2033 unprotected 1st rounders
2033 2nd rounder
The Raptors will probably be the better team this year so the swap probably won't be used
but I love the unprotected picks down the road. You just never know what the rosters
will look like in 5 years so this could work out really well for the Clips like the PG
trade worked out for OKC. Risky move by the Raps
I am not the guy who favors a complete build through picks. You never know how they pan
out and how the coaches nurture them but with a 35 year old with questionable knees, I
am all in for this trade and happy with the haul we got.
Trust the FO as they kept the franchise as one of the winningest in the regular season in the
2010-2020 decade. The health issues bought us down in the playoffs. Hope they make
some trades and keep us competitive without sacrificing much of our young talent
and/or future picks.
I might be in the minority of the fanbase but that’s how I believe so that the
team is watchable from the get go and make my wine even more delectable…lol.
Yeah, we are in an interesting time. Sure, we got younger, but we aren't and
shouldn't be in a true rebuild since we haven't gotten out of the OKC pick swap
situation, yet. Garland and Mathurin will be a decent duo to keep us entertaining to
watch and competitive enough to not tank and give OKC a high lottery pick. We are also
adding Ingram to the mix, and a core of Miller, Sanders, and Neiderhauser, who have
all gotten a year wiser. We also have shed about $10 mill in salary by swapping Ingram
for Kawhi, and we can shed more by not picking up the contracts of Batum, Collins, and
a few others. Essentially we have much more flexibility and recouped a lot of the
assets that we lost in the PG trade. The FO tried to build a contender, and we can't
fault them for that. However, what I'd like to see moving forward is them being more
cautious with future trades. By principle, we should never give up more than two
first rounders ever again, and when we do give up two first rounders, give a few years
to recoup before doing so again. Best of all, we will no longer have to fear the end of
the regular season and pray that Kawhi stays healthy. This team is going to be much
more fun moving forward.
Yeah, we are in an interesting time. Sure, we got younger, but we aren't and
shouldn't be in a true rebuild since we haven't gotten out of the OKC pick swap
situation, yet. Garland and Mathurin will be a decent duo to keep us entertaining to
watch and competitive enough to not tank and give OKC a high lottery pick. We are also
adding Ingram to the mix, and a core of Miller, Sanders, and Neiderhauser, who have
all gotten a year wiser. We also have shed about $10 mill in salary by swapping Ingram
for Kawhi, and we can shed more by not picking up the contracts of Batum, Collins, and
a few others. Essentially we have much more flexibility and recouped a lot of the
assets that we lost in the PG trade. The FO tried to build a contender, and we can't
fault them for that. However, what I'd like to see moving forward is them being more
cautious with future trades. By principle, we should never give up more than two
first rounders ever again, and when we do give up two first rounders, give a few years
to recoup before doing so again. Best of all, we will no longer have to fear the end of
the regular season and pray that Kawhi stays healthy. This team is going to be much
more fun moving forward.
ClipperDodger1214 CNS MVP X1Posts: 4166votes: 18
06/30/2026 - 08:32 PM
Lawrence Frank did really well in this trade. He's done a very good job this year. We're slowly
starting to get some picks back. I like the direction we're going
in.
vbramha Clipper StarterPosts: 722votes: 10
06/30/2026 - 08:43 PM
No, I believe we could benefit from the 2027 pick swap with Toronto because most likely
we will end up with OKC pick and it is a given their pick would be one of the lowest -
closer to #30. So this deal looks even better because Toronto’s pick would be
a better one for than OKC.
Trueblood wrote:
The picks go like this:
2027 first round swap option for the Clips
2030 2nd rounder
2031 and 2033 unprotected 1st rounders
2033 2nd rounder
The Raptors will probably be the better team this year so the swap probably won't be used
but I love the unprotected picks down the road. You just never know what the rosters
will look like in 5 years so this could work out really well for the Clips like the PG
trade worked out for OKC. Risky move by the Raps
pageC4 CNS MVP X2Posts: 9800votes: 56
06/30/2026 - 09:39 PM
vbramha wrote:
We locked Kobe for 4 years at $11.2 millions!
Oh, wow. I'm happy to sign him long term. We should have let Brook Lopez walk though. I
know with Neiderhauser injured we need some depth, but I still would have liked to
have gone in a different direction at the 5.
vbramha Clipper StarterPosts: 722votes: 10
06/30/2026 - 09:55 PM
I thought exact the same thing. We could have let him go and get somebody with good size
and athletic. Lopez was slow and did not play physically you need as a center.
pageC4 wrote:
Oh, wow. I'm happy to sign him long term. We should have let Brook Lopez walk though. I
know with Neiderhauser injured we need some depth, but I still would have liked to
have gone in a different direction at the 5.
toohipcliptoslip CNS MVP X2Posts: 9518votes: 71
07/01/2026 - 08:19 AM
Where is Bradley Beale? I wish we had kept Leonard (as much as I wish for a root canal) Kobe!!
That other center is pretty good. I love Brook but not enough to keep him. I don't
really expect the PO's now but at least it could be fun. The Knuckle heads were FUN.
Frankly I think Lawrence did a good job. Maybe Ballmer realized that he was trying to
do his own appendectomy with his teeth. Lopez is tradable
CP3Best CNS MVP X2Posts: 5373votes: 21
07/01/2026 - 10:06 AM
Dude, I’m ALL for it. You need your team to suck for a year or two to give the keys to the
young bucks so they develop. OKC was not good the first year of SGA, Spurs were not so
good first two years with Wenby. Look at Dallas with Cooper Flag. Look at any of the
superstars, their teams were not good their first year or two and it allowed the
space for the young to develop. Let’s give that to our youngsters and develop
the next OKC/San Antonio dynasty with all the picks we’ve got… I know
it’s wishful thinking cause we don’t have a #1 overall pick but Tatum
was 7th overall I believe…
One can hope
Trueblood CNS MVP X1Posts: 2595Location: 10 miles north of INTUIT DOME votes: 19
07/01/2026 - 10:17 AM
vbramha wrote:
No, I believe we could benefit from the 2027 pick swap with Toronto because most
likely we will end up with OKC pick and it is a given their pick would be one of the
lowest - closer to #30. So this deal looks even better because Toronto’s pick
would be a better one for than OKC.
Thanks for the clarification. I keep forgetting that we still owe OKC picks after all these
years
Dude, I’m ALL for it. You need your team to suck for a year or two to give the keys
to the young bucks so they develop. OKC was not good the first year of SGA, Spurs were
not so good first two years with Wenby. Look at Dallas with Cooper Flag. Look at any of
the superstars, their teams were not good their first year or two and it allowed the
space for the young to develop. Let’s give that to our youngsters and develop
the next OKC/San Antonio dynasty with all the picks we’ve got… I know
it’s wishful thinking cause we don’t have a #1 overall pick but Tatum
was 7th overall I believe…
One can hope
Also, some other encouraging points. Nikola Jocic was a second round pick. Jimmy
Butler was the 30th overall pick, and those two guys led a team to the finals. Every
pick matters. Now we are in somewhat of an odd spot. We cannot tank for a lottery pick,
but we also cannot afford to sit Wagler, Neiderhauser, Miller, and Sanders in hopes
of getting into the play-offs. What we ought to be doing is making sure that the young
guys get ample development time while still trying to get a somewhat high standing.
This might be possible with a core of Ingram, Mathurin, and Garland. The FO should
try and put some pieces around these three on short-term contracts to make sure we
are in the play-in tournament. However, an eye should be kept on Wagler, as he and
Neiderhauser look to be our future. These two should get no less than 15 minutes each
game. This will allow them to get some development in while not throwing them out to
the wolves right away or causing us to fall drastically in the
standings.
toohipcliptoslip CNS MVP X2Posts: 9518votes: 71
07/02/2026 - 01:15 AM
Mathurn is gone. D Andre and Karl Malone were deep in the 2nd round. Our bench is OK Konan could
be a star. Kobe will be a soli starer. So much will depend on defense. Depending on
other moves don't count the play ins out
Mathurn is gone. D Andre and Karl Malone were deep in the 2nd round. Our bench is OK
Konan could be a star. Kobe will be a soli starer. So much will depend on defense.
Depending on other moves don't count the play ins out
I believe we offered Bennedict Mathurin a qualifying offer, so he is a restricted
free agent. This is a good move, as you don't want to let him go for free. If our plans
aren't to keep him, we should look for a trade.