Tyronn Lue Leaving Clippers?

Tyronn Lue leaving Clippers?

https://hoopshype.com/rumor/tyronn-lue-leaving-clippers/

Jake Fischer: The Clippers are a team that is at least one that looks like it has a question mark of who will be comprising this, you know, a chance to compete for a title. If that is still the goal, which it seems like will be moving forward next season, whether that’s in the front office… Ty Lue, as respected head coach as they come, but there has been chatter, let’s say about potentially him, in theory, removing himself from the situation at a certain point in time. So there’s a lot I think, at stake on the other side of LA where the Lakers get all the attention and LeBron’s quest for a fifth ring is always soaking up the headlines, the Clippers could end up becoming a super buzzy team in the postseason and but again, that could be a situation for a lot of organizations. �" via Apple Podcasts

Law Murray: Tyronn Lue responding to @ChrysNBA on movement/lack thereof in Clippers half court offense: “We’re not a movement team. We’re the oldest team in the league playing… we got to play a certain style of basketball every night.” Then T Lue went through checklist of offense. pic.twitter.com/2mUO6wt6Ur -via Twitter @LawMurrayTheNU / March 24, 2023 While George will miss the remainder of the regular season and will not be reassessed for two to three weeks, the Clippers breathed a sigh of relief that he did not suffer a more significant injury when he landed awkwardly after colliding knee to knee with....

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In the 17 minutes that Bones/TMann/Nico/Plumlee shared the floor last night, the Clippers made 12 of 15 3s. Literally making them like they were free throws. You're probably blowing a team out if you shoot like that.

“We’re not a movement team. We’re the oldest team in the league playing… we got to play a certain style of basketball every night.”

Terence Mann and Bones Hyland provided the movement for the Clippers. Terance Mann attacked the basket and put his body on his defender, while Bones Hyland provided the movement with his dribble by moving all over the court and changing the angles of attack from the offense. He made use of the entire court, getting everyone involved, as opposed to just using one side of the court and attacking in a straight line.

Don’t tease me.

We are not a movement team because we didn't have a P G. The jury was out on Bones but he's convincing me... Remember MMSr was 40% from three wan his post up turn around jumper was automatic. Is it unreasonable to wait for that to come back as long as he doesn't tank the standings? A calculated risk. Not one I would make. Ty has done OK with the mess of a season he had. He discovered the kids and he let them finish the game. Westbrook is playing like a kid

. What I'm worried about is re integrating PG13. He and K L are the main reasons we don't have movement. They play 100% iso ball especially PG13. This is why with nauseating redundancyI refer to them as Stupor Stars. They do not make the team better. How many times does K L fight a double, or triple like last night, He had a great shooting night that that's an anonoly. I so wish that this was not a star driven league because they would be ripped by the coach. What would Pop have done? Is that why K L left?

"We’re the oldest team in the league playing."

This is why Marcus Morris, Sr. needs to sit. He's perennially a step slow and getting toasted on defense. Clippers defense played so much better with Terance Mann and Bones Hyland being active out there. Very astute point about Kawhi Leonard and Paul George. With the two of them out there, the Clippers are top-heavy with ISO players, That's why I'm interested in seeing how the Clippers do without him. Russell Westbrook replicated much of Paul George's statistics, only he plays with fire in his belly, doesn't go ISO, and gets the players more involved with his passing. This will be an interesting couple of weeks. Kawhi Leonard's skills seemed to blend in the background last night. Instead of the Clippers playing at Kawhi Leonard's slow, deliberate speed, they played better with the faster pace set by Russell Westbrook, Terance Mann, and Bones Hyland. It was actually exciting to watch the Clippers again.

I have always said that K L is a Hall of Fame role player. From what I saw MMSr's defense wasn't bad. last game He was able to move his man into the help.Should he be benched permanently? No. Right now it's a matter of confidence. Lue needs to get him some easy baskets, not threes. The odds are he will get out of his slump. When he was playing well he should have been the first option a lot.. I am torn between him and RoCo. He can't post up.

Might actually be positive news, but let's see how he does the rest of the season. Last game Ty Lue did a much better job with the substitution pattern- barely saw small ball if any which helped the Clippers get stops, rebound and go on the attack.

I wouldn't mind. I've had it with this guy.

This is not an argument but can somebody list the problems with Lue except MMSr. RoCo and Bones? This is a question. I am not making a point.

It is not fair. But it always falls on the coach when a team does not play hard.

Outside of his terrible rotations and love of tiny guard ball.

He relies on ISO ball.

He doesn’t seem to have any consistent philosophy.

He lacks play calling out of timeouts, which I thought was a strong suit but has been lost this season.

No accountability for lack urgency or hustle.

No timeouts when needed, waits til things get out of hand.

Finally a reasoned answer

I watched the game with your criteria in mind and the game without our Stupor Stars was an offensive work of art. No iso and no PG 13 pull ups. How much of it is because of the problem is our Dynamic Duo. In the past they would have been benched.

Opinion

I agree that without our stars the team plays a more beautiful style of basketball. Lue and the team are forced to play team basketball. I also think both are necessary to get us a chip. I think the hero ball is overplayed. Teams want to overwhelm you with superstars, but I’ve always believed to build that on top of team ball. We rely solely on Kawhi and PG the vast majority of the time. The Mavs and Blazers also do this off the top of my head. The warriors, old spurs are teams that do it the other way.

I think that beautiful style of basketball should be the norm, then you break the kawhi magic in case of emergency. PG I believe plays better when he lends himself to that same beautiful style of basketball. Kawhi I think is that player who can get you a basket when you need one, but every game it has an expiration period if over used.

Honestly I think the coach needs to make it clear that everyone needs to be on board. Or else it’s all futile. The organization needs to back it. Run sets that get them the ball where they are good in the flow of the offense with options (off ball cuts, screens) for others. Can’t rely just on hero ball. I feel like Lue just gives them the ball and gets out of the way.

Did anyone see that Lue interview where he’s asked if Batum is the starter? If so the reply to asking if RoCo is the back up is a problem. Lue clearly has a problem with the guy.

Ty Lue needs to go. With load management, we're a half-game out of the play-in, which is where we were last season. Clippers are inconsistent and play without passion, except for Russell Westbrook and are indifferent to winning.

Lawrence Frank needs to go. Apparently, he and the admin didn't always see eye-to-eye with Ty Lue. Clippers need a TeamPresident/GM who's on the same page with the Head Coach.

Russell Westbrook, the heart and soul of this team, won't be back. Under the new CBA, Clippers won't have an MLE to offer him as they did with John Wall. I can't imagine him re-signing with the Clippers for the minimum.

Without Westbrook we're screwed. I don't see this as a coaching problem It is analytics. I hate the three point shot. They equal long rebounds and 50/50 balls, A 50/50 ball equals a fast break. The mid range game works. We have one of the best rebounding guards ever plus two good centers,That means more offensive rebounds. Drive and kick to our centers is deadly. KL and PG when he's in the mood are good rebounders. When we hit 3's we win when we don't we lose. If Morris hit 40% from three, we win. We have multiple guys who can get to the paint. KL, PG 13, Mann, Powell, EJ. Bones, Russ, Chris Paul is automatic from mid range.It is as easy to drive and kick to mid range as to three.It is easier to drive from mid range.Unfortunately this is the new NBA. Whoud they have Malone shoot threes?

Load management is not T L's fault. It's Leonard I would keep Russ over K L any day. .K L has had load management since his time with the Spurs.

Get rid of MMSr and if we can dump salary to keep Russ and we can win a ring next year.

I wish we could eliminate the corner three and drop the three point line back five feet.

Here's the problem. Clippers are $40 mil over the luxury tax threshold. They could lose Marcus Morris, Sr., Eric Gordon, and Amir Coffey for nothing and get under the threshold. We would also not be able to re-sign Mason Plumlee. With the MLE, they can offer Westbrook a contract starting at $6,479,000. Not sure if that's enough to entice Westbrook to sign with us.

It's the inconsistent performance of this team, plus Ty Lue tinkering with the line-up that's killed the Clippers. On top of that, he hasn't shown the fire and passion to will his team to victory. In fact, Clippers appear to be able to do whatever they want to do without repercussions. Lue's biggest problem is that he doesn't hold his players accountable.

Oh SH*T! That stupid Win Now.

What incentive do we have for trades or Free Agents? We have two decent players who when you add up missed days you get a whole season or more? Our onnly good young player is Bones and maybe Boston. We dumped Moses. We dumped Luke. We might have a new coach too.

I'd keep the front office. Other than the PG trade, they have done a pretty good job. Ty Lue is the major problem this year.

Agree that barring that PG trade, the FO did a reasonably good job. Even the PG trade was a brainchild of Doc Rivers. He pushed Ballmer so hard and even jokingly told him to move the team to Seattle if the other team down the hallway acquires KL. In hindsight, it was not a bad trade - who knows what we would have been if not for that Joe Ingles bump injury to KL. In my opinion, the Morris signing was a blunder! I was not in favor of that from day one because we are not a getting a good player for the kind of money we shelled out. We could have easily got any role player on the market for cheap. I was not happy when they gave away Kennard. There were many shortcomings of Ty on how motivated and used his players in the rotation. He went through his personal tragedies but he should take the blame for his passiveness in coaching and not protesting the bad calls of the referees.

Those three are a big part of it. Lue playing Marcus Morris Senior despite terrible performance reeks of Doc's "He's unstattable," defense of Avery Bradley's trash performance. This year Lue has resembled a lot of the real stubborn tendencies we all hated about Doc. Then letting good players rot on the bench, like RoCo, and not playing young guys like Bones. This is just way to similar of the behavior we hated Doc for.

Without the MLE, we won't be able to sign any free agents of note. It'll have to be through trades. I've advocated this until I'm blue in the face. Hire Bob Myers and Kenny Atkinson to replace Lawrence Frank and Ty Lue and have them implement Golden State's system. That would provide leadership and direction (with everyone on the same page).

Trade Paul George to New York, who trades RJ Barrett, Evan Fournier, and three first-rounders to Portland, who trades Damian Lillard to the Clippers. Damian Lillard becomes our Steph Curry who runs the Golden State system for the Clippers.

I'd love to see the Clippers trade Norman Powell for a draft pick to use on a power forward and open up minutes for Brandon Boston, Jr. Damian Lillard, Eric Gordon, Terance Mann, Bones Hyland, and Brandon Boston, Jr. make a nice rotation for the Clippers.

New York traded their #14 for Josh Hart. I'd love to see the Clippers trade Norman Powell to Atlanta for their #15 and draft 6'10" Leonard Miller.

If the Clippers can sign Bob Myers, Steve Ballmer needs to do it. That'd get rid of Lawrence Frank and Ty Lue, the remaining holdovers from the Doc regime.

I'm sure that Dennis Wong has already contacted Bob Myers and told him that Steve Ballmer is willing to make him the highest-paid Team President/GM in the NBA. Just depends on if Golden State is willing to do the same thing.

I've also heard that Bob Myers is in some competition with Joe Lacob's sons who will someday run the team. Myers may want a different challenge.

We do have a glut of excess wing players. I hope we can make some trades in the offseason.