Corey Maggette in Hot Water

This could be a career ending move - even if he is proven innocent.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/11/sports/corey-maggette-justin-fairfax-duke.html

I really do not want to believe it, Maggette is one of my favorite Clippers.

Hope it’s not true waiting for all the facts

If you read into it, seems hard to believe. This white woman id claiming to be raped by 2 different prominent black men at duke, but never told the police.

This has more to do with a smear campaign on a Lt governor where women are accusing him of r*** 20 years ago.

The First Lady proved to be lying, then this lady comes out.

The sad part is just accusing man of this horrific crime ruins his career even with no evidence or due process.

Literally someone you slept with 20 years ago in college can say you sexually assaulted her and ruin your life.

Lemme guess this woman had an amnesia for 20 years and then the hashtag me too awakened her loss memory

After 20 years? Is Corey planning to run as President of the United State?

This is very sad, Corey has been one of my favorite clippers as a player and as a broadcaster. I was rooting for him to be part of the broadcast team for years to come. This might end his career.

Damn, some of you guys are incredible. I won't mention names (Jarca, Postnan) but did any of you even read the article? I posted it on the game thread but I guess no one read it or couldn't comprehend this part of the article:

Nancy Erika Smith, the lawyer for the woman who accused Mr. Maggette and Mr. Fairfax, Meredith Watson, said in a statement Friday that Ms. Watson had been raped by a Duke basketball player during her sophomore year but did not name the player. Ms. Smith also said that Ms. Watson had reported her r*** to an unspecified dean at the university, but that the dean had “discouraged her from pursuing the claim further.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/11/sports/meredith-watson-corey-maggette.html

Yea I read that. Doesn’t make it true... So she was raped by a big black man and didn’t tell anyone but an I identified dean? She didn’t tell her parents? The police? No one?

Then the next year she was raped by a medium sized black guy... doesn’t tell anyone again because of the first case??

Not to mention Duke a well known racist university.

On top of that for the last 15 years you watch the man who raped you play basketball in the nba and you never peep a word??? Gtfoh...

I mean I see why you would believe it. You know the history of America has been that white women who accuse big black men of r*** never get the benefit of the doubt... yea...

And furthermore Corey came out and said he didn’t do it. It’s a lie. So why do you believe her story with no evidence at all, but immediately discount magette’s word based on nothing.

That was actually my point in the first place. Fools who automatically jump to conclusions with no due process because someone “accused” someone of something.

Now if he was taken to court and found guilty based on evidence, then we have every right to tar and feather him, but not on someone’s 20 year old accusation?

Societies can not be run that way.

Get it now?

That’s a possibility!! lol.

No but in all seriousness this does ruin someone’s career. Hopefully it’s not true and just a smeared tactics. But it will take time to get his stuff together. He was doing good as a commentator with Ralph.

Anyone can make accusations but in reality we have to wait and see in a court of law. Remember everyone is innocent until proven guilty. Even criminals who have been caught in camera and there is eveidence of them commuting the crime, go through a due process to convict them.

I cannot agree with the article and or say he is innocent either. It’s a wait and see game that might take a long time to figure out.

well you were right. the link you posted last night required a membership so I didn't read that one.

Thanks for the new link. Much appreciated.

Still don't believe her. It's all opinion at this point since Corey also stated his side of the argument. But's it's Corey's reputation that has been badly tarnished.

Ezxactly! The irony is that some here are also making accusations about the woman but I digress...

Even if he is proven innocent, just the accusation and media attention may be enough to kill CM50s announcing career. Which sucks.

It is well known that this sort of trauma can take years to process and many women never come out.

One needs to ask themselves, what is the woman getting out of this?

She is going to be a target in the media, attacked by basketball fans (read the above), disbelieved and get no satisfaction other than the unburdening of a trauma she endured.

While I will not say Maggette is guilty, I will also not say that this woman is lying, as some here seem to be doing with no evidence and little understanding of what may have happened. And we wonder why women often don't come out. What I will say, is that whatever Dean she reported to and, who did nothing, should also be investigated.

Have the Clippers address this? What's Corey's status is he still doing games?

He's known as a good dude so I hope this isn't true.. but in reality the accusation alone can ruin your career

Perfect response. No one is saying Maggette is guilty but lets not kid ourselves...This happens more than you think and a University usually hides these things if they can be hidden. It doesn't even have to be a high-profile recruit being protected, it can be a high-profile coach (Paterno) covering or turning a blind eye to this type of thing to protect people close to them,. Too much money making to let out stories like this. Again, I ain't saying Maggette is guilty, but people need to let this play out.

Bravo Sam!

Bullshit. She will get a lot money and sympathy. Why do you think she has a lawyer? The mere fact you ask “what does she get out of it shows you are well versed in this con game. You should do research first.

Since when have white women been afraid to accuse a Black man of r***. The law will be completely on her side even if she is lying.

I've worked with r*** victims for many years. Her story is TYPICAL. In the not too recent past, women who reported r***, in court their whole sexual history had to be divulged and they were called sluts and told that it was their fault. They feel guilty, are frightened and humiliated and worry that nobody will believe them. Date r*** is extremely common. Some estimate 15 - 20 % of college girls. Dr Ford was telling the truth. If any of you had been raped by a "buddy" after he got you drunk, what would you do? Seeing Corey as an announcer might have set her off. This is not a crime per se as the statute of limitations has long passed so presumption of innocence does not apply.

This is a typical "He Said, She Said" and because she was "raped" by one black basketball player doesn't rule out the possibility that it didn't happen a second time, but I find it strange that the University blew her off. I doubt that if told they would do nothing. The answer is "we don't know" For any of you have daughters, especially in college see below. There was a study done where there were two groups of women and one group of men. The first group of women flirted with the men and the second group didn't. The men couldn't tell which was which. We cannot read women's sexual cues. Often he thinks it's Yes and she means No. I bought her dinner so that means she wants sex. She's wearing a dress cut so low that her t*ts hang out means that she wants it. Makes sense to a guy BUT--

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/dear-christine-blasey-ford-i-too-was-sexually-assaulted--and-its-seared-into-my-memory-forever/2018/10/03/2449ed3c-c68a-11e8-9b1c-a90f1daae309_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.988e8bdf28c1

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/09/what-surveys-dating-back-decades-reveal-about-date-r***/571330/

Show me where a white woman accused a black man of r*** in the history of America and she wasn’t “believed”. Show me where a white woman accused a black man of r*** and the police didn’t investigate?

Dude, stop making this about race...it isn't, FFS!

Women also accused Roy Moore in Alabama of sexual assault. Christin Blasé Ford Re: Brett Cavanaugh. She also had a lawyer, but has not filed suit against Kavanaugh.

There is a statute of limitations that begins at the date of harm. Maggette can almost certainly not be sued by this woman and as far as her doing it for sympathy, she is certainly not getting much on this forum. I suspect it will be the same elsewhere. It is also a felony to falsely accuse someone of a crime.

According to a Stanford U study, less than 10% of sexual assault accusations are false.

Is this woman telling the truth? I don't know. But at least accept the possibility that she may be.

It is about race... white woman accuse black man raping her in America, and you say it isn’t about race? Are you trolling? Emmit till wasn’t about race either? You can’t be that naive.

You are wrong... have you not just saw what happen to Bill Cosby? Where are you getting this from?

Emmett Till was about race. That is clear. That doesn't make this about race.

If it turns out she is PROVEN to be a liar and has some racist motive for saying what she did, then it will be about race. Until then, it's an accusation by a woman against a man. T

All I have to say is I don’t think Corey has trouble getting women. If she has a problem with what happened to her then she could have gone to the police. Twenty years is a lifetime. I don’t think it’s ok for her to smear his name over what she recalls from 20 years ago with no real evidence. The man has a wife and kids now. Not only has she ruined his life by just accusing him but she has ruined theirs as well. I don’t know why they would let the media put his story out there. It’s not right. He is innocent until proven guilty. I’m not saying her story is false but twenty years ago is a very long time. Now if they do find him guilty somehow then that should be in the news. It’s just simply not right and I hope for the sake of fairness to all that if she loses her case against CM that he sues her for the trouble.

Bill Cosby? He was accused of drugging and r*** by multiple women, some of them black. What the hell does Bill Cosby have to do with this?

As far as this ruining Maggette's life, that will only be so if it's proven true. That is unlikely after all this time. It will likely go down as a he said/she said, and be an unpleasant period that he will overcome.

Brett Kavanaugh is now sitting on the Supreme Court of the USA. Kobe Bryant was similarly accused and he continued his career quite successfully.

Exactly bro. I’m not sure what people don’t understand about this. She has provided no evidence, no details, nothing, but you have people defending her.

If you accuse someone of something like that the burden of proof is on you. She provided nothing but a “friend”, she told back then. What type of “friend” hears about you being raped and they don’t call the police or try to do anything.

Story defies logic.

Are you serious? Magette is famous. His children are watching their dad being smeared all over the country as a rapist. His family is most likely being hounded by the media as we speak.

That’s f***** traumatizing.

Did the whole Christine Blasé Ford / Brett Kavanaugh incident slip across your radar without you taking note? This sort of thing happens often as Toohip made note of.

To reverse things a bit, former Clipper Keyon Dooling has only recently come out with his story about sexual abuse against him when he was younger. He didn't publish his story for money or sympathy. He sat on it for over 20 years because it was too traumatic to deal with for all that time. Finally, he was feeling suicidal because it was eating away at his soul.

Ultimately, he found the courage to confront what happened to him and let others know so he could better deal with it and in the hope that it would help others.

He said that trauma was destroying his life and for 20+ years he told no one.

If you haven't read this story by Keyon, it's well worth it. Doc is featured prominently.

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/keyon-dooling-the-ghost

Here is something else from Keyon.

It’s different when you’re in the entertainment business. An accusation can ruin your life without due process

Maggette already has been kicked out of the broadcast team

Asis Azari got his show cancelled

James Franco snubs

Ryan Secrest- nobody talks to in red carpet

For the record Aziz Ansari, is performing and selling out shows all across the country as we speak. James Franco has five feature films in the can. Ryan Seacrest is producing a bunch of reality TV and continues to get quite wealthy, while being mostly off camera.

Zero lives ruined.

Corey will go through hell for awhile and, if not proven guilty, he will be back.

I remember Emmit Till and have seen the pictures. I also have sat in "Colored Only" places and used "Colored Only" bathrooms. Emmmit Till was about power not sex. Nobody said that he raped her. He whistled or touched her. Maybe it was "malicious eyeballing". In most of the "r***" lynchings I'm sure that the white murderers didn't really believe that the black "rapist" did anything. It was power.

As far as Magg's, in all probability it was an ALLEGED date r***. I am not naive. Do black men r*** white women? Yes. We also r*** any other ethnic group available as do white men. Do black men preferentially date r*** white women? No, they r*** the most available woman. If a white man and a black man commit the same offense against a white person, the black man gets a worse punishment. If the victim is black, I would bet that the Authorities would not take her as seriously. You are all right.

Yes, black men r*** white women (and any other ethnic group available). Yes black men are more harshly punished. Yes black women are taken less seriously.

In"stranger rapes" because of the trauma, the woman often erases her memory and SUBCONSCIOUSLY substitutes what the thinks is true. True - a woman can be raped by a blonde short white guy but she truthfully believe that two big black guys did it. Subconscious racism

Same here, big maggette fan. Sad that it’s guilty until proven innocent, and even then like you said damage can already be done

If she doesn’t have more than Ford did then Corey should be fine. One bothersome thing is that unlike Ford this isn’t politically motivated. Most of the country didn’t believe Ford as her story had many holes and mistruths. There was no evidence and Kavanaugh was rightfully sworn in.

4% of r*** allegations prove to be false. He’s innocent until proven guilty but the odds of a woman coming up with this out of nowhere are pretty slim. She has nothing to gain and a lot to lose. I’m a mental health professional as is my wife and she works for a r*** crisis hotline/organization. It’s so hard for sexual assault survivors to come forward, making it up takes a special type of evil because of all the steps you have to go through... I know nothing about this individual case, but general statistics and an understanding of how these things happen tells me that Corey probably won’t be back on the broadcast...

Thank you.

I believe magette

Waiting for truth

PS: Racism was brought up. Since this is Black History Month. On this post I have complimented all Americans especially white Americans for the great progress we have made. White America should be complimented. THERE IS RACISM POLICE BRUTALITY AND ECONOMIC SLAVERY NOW. Some kids full of Afrocentric bull sh*t have called me an Uncle Tom for this. It's time for a lesson in Jim Crow. These are things that I remember. In grade school in Indianapolis, our books were 5 years old hand me downs from white schools. They were often torn with missing pages. We would often not have pencils and paper. My post grad class was 250. The quota for black students was 2, one year none. In my freshman year at Purdue there were 165 black students. The best job a black man could have was a train porter or in the post office, or maybe a janitor at a good company (Eli Lilly in Indianapolis) even with a PhD. Lilly had one black lab tech so they could say that they were integrated. 1970. In the south you couldn't have gone to Staples Center. If a black man accidentally touched a white woman in the crowd he would be lynched. Maybe there was a Colored Section on the top rows. You could not go to the concession stand. The movies had Colored Nights which was the only time you could go. There were towns where black men walked in the middle of the street because if they touched a white woman they would be lynched. The peonage/neo slavery share cropper system existed. Indiana was run by the Cu Clux Clan in the 20's. There were no black faces on TV and in movies other than Uncles or Mammy's. In 1970 there were no black high level executives in....

I can't make any determination if this is true or not, but I'm afraid there's a lot of misunderstanding in this thread as to why victims don't tell anyone, including close family and friends, not to talk about how many victims are blaming themselves or trying to even explain away why whatever happened might have happened. It's really not as easy as just coming out and saying it, and it can take some people are very long time to even have the courage to do so.

Yeah. Read the Keyon Dooling article above. It explains it quite well.

Thank you for being level headed.

Dr. Ford's statements were NOT politically motivated. There was a man who was about to be elevated to the SCOTUS who had sexually assaulted her, a FELONY. She COURAGEOUSLY said that because of his CRIMINALITY he shouldn't be a Justice. This isn't political, it's PATRIOTISM. Most of the country DID believe Ford.TRUMP SAID THAT HE BELIEVED HER. There were NO MISTRUTHS. You do NOT EVER have evidence in cases like this. Dr Ford's testimony was textbook, do your f*cking homework. Did her story have holes? Do your f*ckig homework and you will find out why. As a matter of fact she told you why. The fact that he was sworn in was because the Republicans controlled Congress. If Democrats had controlled Congress he would have been arrested for lying to Congress. He probably will be but that's another subject. He needed a blanket party when he was in college. This is the type of thinking that prevents LEGITIMATE victims of sexual violence , men, women and children from speaking up, causing them to bear their torment alone because they are not believed, because there is "NO EVIDENCE". What if Kavanaugh and his drunk frat boys had shoved a hard one up your a*s, what would you do?. Unless you went to campus police , were interviewed by doctors and interviewed by police who would think that you were less than a man because you were a catcher, not a pitcher, then had you a*s swabbed there would be NO EVIDENCE otherwise. Would you put it on your Face book? Would you tell anybody? Would you have the COURAGE to speak up against the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES knowing that you would be humiliated in front of the whole world? Would you....

Just as bad as the smear job hit on justice Brett.

The woman who accused Magette of r*** is black.

As far as Bretts Hit Job. He did it. I asked you to do your f*king homework. I did it for you. Dr Ford is an expert in memory storing. She said that immediate severe stress INHANCES memory.

Read the first page or so. I will translate. There is a difference between Immediate stress and long term stress. The memories of long term stress fade. This summary is based on peer reviewed scientific research done in universities. They are not non-facts like those her accusers pulled out of their a*sses

HOWEVER Memories of immediate severe stress are INHANCED. You become hyperviglant and ignore irrelevant information. As Dr Ford said, this is caused by high levels of adrenaline.

Short Version If you are under immediate severe stress like being 15 and having a drunk college boy try to tear your clothes off and hump you, you will have an excess of adrenaline. Because of this, you develop tunnel vision and focus solely of the person who is causing the problem, Brett. That event is burned into her memory. Because her attention is focused, she does not remember irrelevant details like if there was music or even how she got home. Dr Ford explained the scientific basis for her vivid memories but obviously you didn't listen I will be happy to explain further.

https://www.magneticmemorymethod.com/stress-memory-loss/