Please Stay Home (P. 2)

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It was a set up.

The rules do not apply to elected officials.

New Jersey governor and his family love telling other people what to do.

jtwinnaz wrote:
Here’s an idea! How about instead of trying to scare people for almost a year now, we start telling people to take zinc, vitamin d, and vitamin c? Instead of mandating masks that obviously don’t work, we start recommending 30 minutes of exercise a day? Instead of locking down again, we start waking up? We are all essential. The only way to defeat the Chinese virus is to stop fearing it. A lot of people are ready to start getting back to normal. Those of you that needed a vaccine, it’s here in record time thanks to President Trump. Those of you that are so....

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jtwinnaz wrote:
Fauci was the same guy scaring people about h i v and aids. It wasn't as bad as he made it seem. Sound familiar?

If someone has aids, should they walk around with condom on 24/7? Condoms work better than masks. Maybe it's better if we all just stay home until aids are gone forever.

No one is saying sick people should go out and infect the public. No one is saying the virus is fake. You guys are making this black and white. The only one forcing sick people to get other people sick are the democrat leaders such as Andrew Cuomo when he sent infected people into the nursing homes.

jt, you're back at it? Wow. Your posts are incredibly biased. There's not even any effort to show balance at all.

clippyclip wrote:
Vitamins? Exercise? Come on, man. Are you for real? You didn't just drink the Kool Aid, you filled IV bags and are pumping it in. How many professional athletes have been infected now? You don't think they're in top physical condition? Masks "obviously don't work"? According to who? You? OAN? The host of questionable sources and Facebook posts you pull your "information" from? It's just so scary that you, and so many others, actually believe this crap.
At first, I gave jtwinnaz the benefit of the doubt, but the more he posts, the more he just proves he is only here to tell people his view. It's like: here's some dirt I have on this person and this viewpoint. This is exactly why America is so divided.

The Cuomo family loves to infect people. Here is Chris breaking quarantine while he had China virus.

jtwinnaz wrote:
The Cuomo family loves to infect people. Here is Chris breaking quarantine while he had China virus.

This ladies and gentlemen is exactly the problem with America...this mindset, not because it is conservative, because it is the extreme. This is the type of person who follows the Milo Yiannopoulos blue print: throw accusation after accusation to the opposing viewpoint while not recognizing one's own viewpoint's fault or shortcomings. It's so sad that THIS mentality is ruining the Republican party. JT, you are lost.

Oh no, she is too old to be this reckless. Or maybe she knows something you don't know.

pageC4 wrote:
This ladies and gentlemen is exactly the problem with America...this mindset, not because it is conservative, because it is the extreme. This is the type of person who follows the Milo Yiannopoulos blue print: throw accusation after accusation to the opposing viewpoint while not recognizing one's own viewpoint's fault or shortcomings. It's so sad that THIS mentality is ruining the Republican party. JT, you are lost.

Again, trust the doctors.

https://twitter.com/BlackConserva16/status/1286980908348735488?s=20

SamMays wrote:
Joe, you can't argue with a Trumper. They are just incapable of holding onto anything that is the least bit complex. And I mean, "the least bit."

really. Sad to say my brother and I haven't spoken in about 3 months. He's going down with that ship.

jtwinnaz wrote:
Jt, I have already reported your posts. They are no longer holding any value to the site. You have passed the point of contribution to straight up spamming, trolling, and just being obnoxious.

pageC4 wrote:
At first, I gave jtwinnaz the benefit of the doubt, but the more he posts, the more he just proves he is only here to tell people his view. It's like: here's some dirt I have on this person and this viewpoint. This is exactly why America is so divided.

That is kinda the point of a discussion forum, correct?

clipper*joe wrote:
really. Sad to say my brother and I haven't spoken in about 3 months. He's going down with that ship.
Boy how I wish we could get back to the days when we didn't have such extreme candidates. At least America spoke and the message was loud and clear: we want change. Now we have it.

jtwinnaz wrote:
That is kinda the point of a discussion forum, correct?
Yes, but look at your posts. There's no discussion in it. Your goal has basically been to just yell your point. Look at how you bombard your viewpoint. That's not discussion anymore. You have both in the past and now just gone way off the deep end, and there is no discussion value to your posts.

pageC4 wrote:
Jt, I have already reported your posts. They are no longer holding any value to the site. You have passed the point of contribution to straight up spamming, trolling, and just being obnoxious.

Dude, you guys have been making your points, and now you are seeing some counter points. Instead of getting triggered, why don't you stop and think for a minute. Maybe other people have other opinions than you. Just maybe your opinions can change after you open your eyes. I thought liberals were supposed to be open minded...

jtwinnaz wrote:
That is kinda the point of a discussion forum, correct?

No. Your randomness proves you're just an internet rightwing-parrot. Your arguments are so remedial that you resort to posting videos that don't hold anything of value. But hey, keep doing you.

jtwinnaz wrote:
Again, you missed the point. If someone coughs they should cover it up. You should wash your hands anytime they may be dirty. If someone is sick, they should stay home. That has been common courtesy for generations.

Mask do not work.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/business/2020/11/20/rachel-maddow-partner-susan-mikula-covid-19-zw-orig.cnn-business/video/playlists/business-media/

She literally says she is now not as scared as she used to be but then she tries to scare you again at the end. If the masks worked, how did her parter get China virus? Please explain.

We don't need mandates to be good people. And we especially don't need mandates from hypocrites that do not follow their same rules.

I asked you guys to explain all of this to me. How did these people who wore masks get the virus?

Why are these people making mandates not following them?

Please, I want answers, not people thinking I'm a troll and reporting me...

pageC4 wrote:
Boy how I wish we could get back to the days when we didn't have such extreme candidates. At least America spoke and the message was loud and clear: we want change. Now we have it.

It's going to take a long time for that. A lot of norms were broken.

clipper*joe wrote:
No. Your randomness proves you're just an internet rightwing-parrot. Your arguments are so remedial that you resort to posting videos that don't hold anything of value. But hey, keep doing you.

Dude, those posts hold a lot of value to someone who isn't a sheep. Do you not see the hypocrisy? I even posted pictures and videos in case you are a visual learner or need to see it to believe it.

lets all drop it. This got out of hand and season is about to start. This wasn't even a political thread. Okay, I'll be first...

jtwinnaz wrote:
I asked you guys to explain all of this to me. How did these people who wore masks get the virus?

Why are these people making mandates not following them?

Please, I want answers, not people thinking I'm a troll and reporting me...

Okay, I'll give you an answer: there are numerous variables in each case. Perhaps someone was wearing a mask, but one can still get sick through the hands and other surfaces. The mask mandate was not set to 100% prevent the contagion of the virus-nothing can do that except barricading oneself inside with no physical contact. Wearing a mask reduces the risk. That is the reason behind the mask, to reduce the risk. It was not meant to 100% avoid getting sick. However, I have a feeling you will have your response as to why you don't believe it. Or you will include some video, so I'll leave it at this: you are 100% convinced on your view point. No one is going to change it.

clipper*joe wrote:
lets all drop it. This got out of hand and season is about to start. This wasn't even a political thread. Okay, I'll be first...
Excellent idea. I'm on to basketball as well.

pageC4 wrote:
Okay, I'll give you an answer: there are numerous variables in each case. Perhaps someone was wearing a mask, but one can still get sick through the hands and other surfaces. The mask mandate was not set to 100% prevent the contagion of the virus-nothing can do that except barricading oneself inside with no physical contact. Wearing a mask reduces the risk. That is the reason behind the mask, to reduce the risk. It was not meant to 100% avoid getting sick. However, I have a feeling you will have your response as to why you don't believe it. Or you will include some video, so I'll leave it at this: you are 100% convinced on your view point. No one is going to change it.

Thank you for not running away from the question. Ok, so you believe masks are to slow the spread. When do you think the masks should come off?

jtwinnaz wrote:
Thank you for not running away from the question. Ok, so you believe masks are to slow the spread. When do you think the masks should come off?
I have an answer as well, but as I mentioned to Joe, I'm bringing it back to basketball. You want my opinion PM.

clipper*joe wrote:
lets all drop it. This got out of hand and season is about to start. This wasn't even a political thread. Okay, I'll be first...

Dude, you guys start a discussion and I joined it. Showed you the weak points of your arguments and showed you what our leaders think about it with pictures and videos. I know you hate being wrong, but you don't need to try to silence someone when they do not agree with you. That is not how you grow as a person.

This isn't the first thread you guys started that I joined to share my opinion. Once I show you guys how people outside of your bubble think, you don't want to hear it.

I didn't come here to read about China virus, Trump, anything political, etc. You guys started that stuff. I come here for the basketball talk. That Is it. But when I see threads like this keep coming up every time I load this site, I will respond with my opinions. The name of this thread is "Please Stay Home." I like you guys and want the best for you. You don't need to live in fear and you shouldn't let the media, big tech, and elected officials control your life; especially when they don't follow their own rules.

clipper*joe wrote:
It's going to take a long time for that. A lot of norms were broken.
I agree with you on that.

clippyclip wrote:
Vitamins? Exercise? Come on, man. Are you for real? You didn't just drink the Kool Aid, you filled IV bags and are pumping it in. How many professional athletes have been infected now? You don't think they're in top physical condition? Masks "obviously don't work"? According to who? You? OAN? The host of questionable sources and Facebook posts you pull your "information" from? It's just so scary that you, and so many others, actually believe this crap.
Do you see any of the athletes dying from Covid? Can you even name one? Cases are not the same as deaths. If masks worked,....

I'm moving this thread to the everything else section- please discuss there.

jtwinnaz wrote:
I asked you guys to explain all of this to me. How did these people who wore masks get the virus?

Why are these people making mandates not following them?

Please, I want answers, not people thinking I'm a troll and reporting me...

JT....You aren't alone and I am with you in this and I admire your patience. I am not going to go any further except to say that nobody is going to change their mind regardless of the facts.

I am here for Clips basketball but you see this stuff and just go SMH....lol

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