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Locally sourced superstars.

Let’s break that down for a minute. In the Clippers history, we have struggled to accrue meaningful levels of fame. Our lack of “culture” or lack of success - real, tangible, recordable success - may be the reason why we have always been a dark horse of a team. This is not to say that Clipper teams have not been entertaining over the years, or that Clipper’s fans have not witnessed a great brand of basketball. However, money talks and bullshit walks… and as soon as the Los Angeles Clippers got bought by Steve Ballmer, things changed. Let’s not argue over player A or player B. And let’s not forget our past… it may not be banner filled, but there was hard-work and dedication (and pain and suffering and patience and heartbreak) over the years on part by the organization, but more so for the fans and Ralph Lawler!

The organization, from the owner to the front office and most definitely to the coach and players have allowed for the Clippers to reach the highest potential level in their history. We have landed two superstars and we are about to witness greatness.

The one element that I love most about our situation now is that our stars are local boys. They are about to lift a city and they are proud representatives of the locale. It is almost a birth right for the stars to have the keys of the city and carry on in our recent history of relative success. It seems like we are a bit entitled to expect the city to embrace this team. Not only is it going to be a great brand of basketball. But it will be the products of SoCal playing for SoCal. And that is a beautiful position to be in.

I really hope the organization MILKS this opportunity. Our brand of basketball has always been blue collar, scrappy, and always with a touch of fun… But I hope it evolves into a media blitz to capture the grandeur of the SoCal geography. There is a huge demographic of Clipper fans that has been growing, but more importantly growing in visibility. I think this new wave of two bonafide superstars in their primes will allow the team to achieve success and popularity just because it will be great entertainment and competition. But I am also very focused on promoting the fact that the brand of basketball that we will be playing will be unapologetically ANGELENO basketball. And if I were in the organization, I would stress that. Stress the geography… Rep the coast, the state, the region, county, city, the block!

The owner has already done community development and helped rebuild LA city parks, and I would continue those efforts. The team has an outreach program, and I would keep a healthy stress and effort on that. Ballmer went ahead and deployed “LA Clipper” parties all over the city… I would go ahead and amplify those efforts A LOT. I would reach out and form partnerships… there are a lot of coffee shops and other retailers that would love to serve and advertise an LAC organization and their fanbase. Of course there would have to be crazy amounts of marketing with TV ads, Billboards, material goods, etc. They can put out a Request for Art proposals to feature around the city (hello [new/old] buildings around staples - and across the city.) There are so many segments that the Clippers can insert themselves and organize the public, just to have their name and colors and Chuck the Condor in front of peoples’ eyes and mouths. Before we can dazzle the city with our gameplay, lets blitz them before the season begins!

I have kept an eye on products of California scattered across the national league. This is the first instance that I can remember that stars are coming together to play for their hometown team - and that home “town” happens to be a huge metropolitan market.

Above all else, don’t forget to win.

I guess this post stems from the fact that I have moved from LA, and I miss my city. It can also be tied to the fact that I work and study in a geographic specific industry. And more recently it has a lot to do with the fact that BG is talking some salty smack about LA... while in LA. Or maybe it is being petty about putting a final nail on the coffin to the Laker fans that have tormented me over the years while they oogled a Kobe Bryant that I couldn't love when I was younger... and shoving their....

I don't think he's talking smack about the city but more out of his personal perspective. His stint with us was a mixed bag. In the end, he lost himself on the court, and lost focus in his personal life. He also says there is good and bad in every city. This is the quote in question:

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Griffin said when asked if he prefers to play in L.A.: "No, to be honest. I think playing in another city now I see the advantages and disadvantages to playing in different places. ... Everything has a positive and a negative. It just depends on what you value."

Here is another part of the article that kinda validates what he is saying. While being sent to Detroit wasn't a nice parting gift from his previous team, after signing a max contract, he just logged in his best season as a player. He lifted his team to the playoffs after a long drought. He's back to being an All-star.

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Griffin enjoyed perhaps the most productive campaign of his career in 2018-19 with averages of 24.5 points, 7.5 rebounds and 5.4 assists, while shooting 46.2 percent from the field and 36.2 percent from beyond the arc. Griffin was named an All-Star for the sixth time, and he led the Pistons to the playoffs.

It's a far reach, IMO, that BG is salty about Kobe being the man while he was here. Kobe actually looked infatuated with BG when he first arrived. People forget that. People forget that we were the top team in LA while he was here. BG doesn't have the personality to be an alpha dog which is why he struggled. The Kardasians (Jenners) is also another reason for his demise. He chased the glitter and found out that all that glitters, isn't gold. Getting with Kendall not only destroyed his family, it helped get him out of here. All his fault but when you have distractions like that family (Tristan, Odom, Harden, Humphries, BG, Clarkson. etc.), is it any wonder he doesn't want to come back.

Look, no matter what, BG is the only player who is still on top. He's the only ex-clippers that has maintained his value. Only player that has improved since he was shipped out. Ironically, he was the only player loyal to this organization to the very end. He never said any bad until he was lied to and traded. Glad he's gone but am also glad he's doing just fine in Detroit.

LAC12, I think I misinterpreted your quote about Kobe. Sorry about that.

clipper*joe wrote:
I don't think he's talking smack about the city but more out of his personal perspective. His stint with us was a mixed bag. In the end, he lost himself on the court, and lost focus in his personal life. He also says there is good and bad in every city. This is the quote in question:

Good and accurate post Joe. Not sure though that Blake was “lied” to. He got paid an enormous amount of money. Circumstances change and there are no guarantees.

^^^BG was the first clipper excited to be part of the organization and he really changed our image with fans. CP3 pretty much had a bad attitude a lot and I think taught others a bad attitude by example and words. He was no doubt a huge part of the transition of the clippers being taken seriously but we never even got to the WCF with him so not contenders

We've been the best team in LA for 7 years now (and were good for 2 years before that). If we succeed this year and next, we're looking at an entire generation of new NBA fans who only have memories of the Clippers being the best team in LA.

That will pay massive dividends in another 10 years or so, as those fans become players, their friends become players, those fans spread out across the U.S., etc..

If any of you have ever met a "Trust Funder", somebody who was born rich and never had to work because Daddy left him lots of cash, aka immature, pampered spoiled brat, then you will understand BG. He had a huge sense of entitlement and self centeredness because in his mind he was the center of the world. He was shown that he's an ordinary guy and maybe he grew up.

Best thing to happen to him

Blake was something special when he came here. His amazing style of play was making everyone tune in...even Lakers fans. On ESPN, all that you could hear Max Kellerman and the others say was, "He's going to be a Laker soon." Kobe would suck up to him. In the All-Star game you can see Kobe walking by him and placing his hand over Blake's shoulder. You can tell he was clearly recruiting.

That being said both him and CP fell short, both deserve a fair share of blame as to why we couldn't get past the 2nd round.

I feel bad that we did stab him in the back, but I feel good that our franchise was able to remedy the mistake of signing him to that max. Like CP, I don't miss BG at all. I just wished that we would have pulled the plug on lob city two years before it got as toxic as it did.

I hope Kawhi and George can do what the other couldn't. This organization needs to have something to show for all its misery.

pageC4 wrote:
Blake was something special when he came here. His amazing style of play was making everyone tune in...even Lakers fans. On ESPN, all that you could hear Max Kellerman and the others say was, "He's going to be a Laker soon." Kobe would suck up to him. In the All-Star game you can see Kobe walking by him and placing his hand over Blake's shoulder. You can tell he was clearly recruiting. That being said both him and CP fell short, both deserve a fair share of blame as to why we couldn't get past the 2nd round. I feel bad that....

pageC4 wrote:
Blake was something special when he came here. His amazing style of play was making everyone tune in...even Lakers fans. On ESPN, all that you could hear Max Kellerman and the others say was, "He's going to be a Laker soon." Kobe would suck up to him. In the All-Star game you can see Kobe walking by him and placing his hand over Blake's shoulder. You can tell he was clearly recruiting. That being said both him and CP fell short, both deserve a fair share of blame as to why we couldn't get past the 2nd round. I feel bad that....

toohipcliptoslip wrote:
If any of you have ever met a "Trust Funder", somebody who was born rich and never had to work because Daddy left him lots of cash, aka immature, pampered spoiled brat, then you will understand BG. He had a huge sense of entitlement and self centeredness because in his mind he was the center of the world. He was shown that he's an ordinary guy and maybe he grew up.

Best thing to happen to him

Yeah because BG putting countless hours of work in the gym and on the court to get to where he was is equivalent to a trust fund baby doing absolutely no work for the money they had. Your narrative on BG is both very tired and in accurate. No doubt he got a primadonna attitude the last year or two he was hear, but comparing him to a trust fund kid is laughable. He still played hard and worked for his game.

clipperboy24 wrote:
Yeah because BG putting countless hours of work in the gym and on the court to get to where he was is equivalent to a trust fund baby doing absolutely no work for the money they had. Your narrative on BG is both very tired and in accurate. No doubt he got a primadonna attitude the last year or two he was hear, but comparing him to a trust fund kid is laughable. He still played hard and worked for his game.

Yeah he certainly learnt how to shoot during his time with the Clipps, first the mid range got up to a nice percentage and now he can hit the 3.

I think what he meant was that BG expected to be a Kobe-like figure and acted like that. Also he had a complex of "I was here first" and "I am the face of this franchise" so I am a big deal. It was aided with all the advertising he was getting and media exposure he was getting. But it never translated to any significant wins...

Hence Laker fans (and all rational NBA fans) cooling off on him. (And perhaps why some Clipper fans got upset that he never hit his potential.)

But to stay on target... Kawhi is coming in as (advertised) "no ego" and playing for pride of his LOCALE. That is the point I am trying to make! I think it is a huge deal that our 1 & 2 options are SoCal ballers. I think our media team needs to exploit the crap out of this...

Unlike Blake, he is coming as a finished product... but I am still anxious to see how Doc incorporates 2-13 on the floor. I am also nervous to see how PG recovers with his shoulders and Kawhi with his "load management"...

But that is a separate topic. The thesis is that these are local boys coming home with a franchise to carry over our crosstown rivals / media heartthrobs with a revamped roster for local and national dominance.

What I am trying to get at, and what some people have also said, is that it is time to capitalize on our dominance over LAL by winning in the NBA.

For almost a decade we've been outperforming LAL, but that doesn't say much. Laker fans lay dormant, and "free agent fans" in SoCal are uninterested since we were not winning anything big - on a national scale.

Now the timing pits us against a hot LAL team, and we need to strike fast and hard. We need to win frequently and early. Build momentum and keep LAL below us at all times. Win every meeting with them.

Our rookie in the summer league had the right idea... he said this is only the first in the series (referring to a summer league win, but he had the right state of mind).

Last time a home town kid came home to the clippers, he came in fat, out of shape, and huge disappointment. Baron Davis.

PG and KL’s family should watch what they eat around them lol.

clipperboy24 wrote:
Yeah because BG putting countless hours of work in the gym and on the court to get to where he was is equivalent to a trust fund baby doing absolutely no work for the money they had. Your narrative on BG is both very tired and in accurate. No doubt he got a primadonna attitude the last year or two he was hear, but comparing him to a trust fund kid is laughable. He still played hard and worked for his game.

Being a Trust Funder doesn't mean that you don't work hard, many do. It means that you are spoiled and self centered. They have never had to be responsible for the consequences of their bad behavior. BG probably had a primo don attitude his whole life because he was a great athlete and could do anything he chose with no bounds. Look at what he did to his girlfriend. That didn't start a couple of years ago. He is the master and the world is his butler.

I have a Trust Funder buddy who put in countless hours of hard work to be a world class fencer and is an internationally known tattooist. He will show up 2 hours late for a session making the client wait, no call and for no reason. He doesn't need the money, The client's lost time means nothing. He's the prince. He has two customized Harleys and a recording studio with all the instruments, some custom made. If you've never met one you are lucky. Will agree to disagree.

toohipcliptoslip wrote:
Being a Trust Funder doesn't mean that you don't work hard, many do. It means that you are spoiled and self centered. They have never had to be responsible for the consequences of their bad behavior. BG probably had a primo don attitude his whole life because he was a great athlete and could do anything he chose with no bounds. Look at what he did to his girlfriend. That didn't start a couple of years ago. He is the master and the world is his butler.

I have a Trust Funder buddy who put in countless hours of hard work to be a world class fencer and is an internationally known tattooist. He will show up 2 hours late for a session making the client wait, no call and for no reason. He doesn't need the money, The client's lost time means nothing. He's the prince. He has two customized Harleys and a recording studio with all the instruments, some custom made. If you've never met one you are lucky. Will agree to disagree.

Growing up in south Orange County, I have know my fair share of trust fund babies and those looking forward to becoming trust funders. It’s very rare that you find them as hard workers, but hey most of the terms you use are hard to connect with so agree to disagree is fine with me. Usually how it plays out, lol.

clipper*joe wrote:
I don't think he's talking smack about the city but more out of his personal perspective. His stint with us was a mixed bag. In the end, he lost himself on the court, and lost focus in his personal life. He also says there is good and bad in every city. This is the quote in question:
I don't hold any ill will towards Blake, he didn't badmouth us anywhere near as bad as CP did. He had some valid reasons for being upset at the way his trade went down. I'm glad he's doing well in Detroit. It's a shame that we couldn't have found a much less toxic player to pair with Blake during his time here, maybe the outcome would have been a little better.

clipfan63 wrote:
I don't hold any ill will towards Blake, he didn't badmouth us anywhere near as bad as CP did. He had some valid reasons for being upset at the way his trade went down. I'm glad he's doing well in Detroit. It's a shame that we couldn't have found a much less toxic player to pair with Blake during his time here, maybe the outcome would have been a little better.

Not to turn this into another CP3 and BG thread... But again I stand by everything CP said in his video and it does not constitute as "badmouth"-ing... Unless there are quotes I am unaware of.

Ownership and management did not want to commit to tooling up to contend with GSW. And players did not buy into an off-the-court camaraderie, which affected their on court chemisty.

To build a winning culture, you've got to win frequently and at the highest level. You don't have to look far to look-up examples.

I don't care for either player.

Looking forward.

We have two superstars that have the potential to pair nicely physically and strategically. Plus they are in SoCal natives with ties to the geography. I want to see sexy LA or Los Angeles city edition jerseys (remember our old blue alternatives that just said Los Angeles! My Fav!)

These are grounded and mild mannered stars with no baggage. THey are proven and in their primes... Time to win frequently and at the highest level!

I mentioned that we should have a "city edition" jersey that encapsulates all of southern California... and as that idea marinates in my head it makes so much sense. Prior to coming to LA we were in SD. And the further you move away from the downtown core, the more alienated Southern Californians become in the sprawled suburbias of Southern California.

To be able to absorb that and add that energy to the momentum of the LA Clippers - a fanbase that already exists, but for the organization to broaden the mental boundaries of LA proper would be huge.

Similar to what the GSW did by calling themselves Golden State. Or having *separate* City edition jerseys for the City (SF) and the Town (Oak).

jarca wrote:
You’ll probably like how they held the jersey to say 213

https://twitter.com/LAClippers/status/1154137566691520512?s=20

YUP! Did you watch the conference, Doc reordered them to make the 2-13 and drew attention to it Smile

#213Era #HomeGrown #SoCal

LAC_12 wrote:
YUP! Did you watch the conference, Doc reordered them to make the 2-13 and drew attention to it Smile

#213Era #HomeGrown #SoCal

Doc knows what’s up

Check out this mural that was unveiled today.

https://twitter.com/LAClippers/status/1154176391773974528

That is really cool. Does anyone know where this is? I'd like to get a picture of it before some Laker fan vandalizes it.

Repped (+1)

ClipperDodger1214 wrote:
Check out this mural that was unveiled today.

https://twitter.com/LAClippers/status/1154176391773974528

That is really cool. Does anyone know where this is? I'd like to get a picture of it before some Laker fan vandalizes it.

I love how that is exactly what I was thinking as well!

I'd love to move our marketing away from LA Our Way... to something with a stronger geographic/local/home aspect.

I love the LA Our Way tag line

Because that's exactly what it is

LA our way, the way we run the city now

Is it a mural, or is it a printed tarp? Because it looked like a tarp to me in the presser.

ClipSince7thGrade wrote:
I love the LA Our Way tag line

Because that's exactly what it is

LA our way, the way we run the city now

I don't dislike it... but it does not evoke a sense of place.

It is a continuation from last year's "pLAyoffs Our Way" and I think we need something new...

... and it should (in my opinion) be very geography/location/local/home oriented.

I think today (7/25) Jalen had a great two segments on his Jalen & Jacoby and First Take...

How LBJ and AD are "transplant" stars in LA... this is along the same point I am trying to make how the marketing for LA should switch towards a more homegrown/local/geographic tone!

Other quotes include:

“Both guys grew up in California… they didn’t go to USC or UCLA… they come back and embody a hometown movement!”

“you got home grown… fans of hometown teams”

There was a moment today on First Take where the topic came up... Maybe KL2 wants it more because he's from LA! I think it is a theme that is not being talked about by the media and it is a HUGE part of our team. Our one, two punch are home grown superstars. They are from here. Their families and friends show up to these HOME games. Their humanitarian efforts affects communities that they were raised! The show likened it to LeBron leaving MIA to bring a chip to Cleveland. And then there was that NB commercial, and the Terminator/Muscle Beach commercial, and the ESPN 213 vs 310...

Not to mention our new city edition jerseys and the new court design. The black (out of bounds) frame around the court has the city grid on it!

This is a very beautiful moment in sports history. I can't remember or recall homegrown stars claiming stake in their home town/city. It adds to the hunger for them, and will add to the sweetness of victory for the fans.

For the first time EVER KL2 seems happy. When are they going to retire #100, Lawler? What's great is that it is not about celebrity, one Primo Don, It represents a team.

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