Clippers Building Toughness?

There is one thing I really like about this team. TOUGHNESS! We have at least 6 players who will not back down from anybody. Paul - Reddick - Granger - Griffin - Jordan - Barnes and....

I don't know enough about Granger, but to me only Cp3 and sometimes Barnes' toughness benefit the team.

Blake and DJ can be tough, but they get too emotional about it, which always leads to stupid techs / fouls. It doesn't matter if it was really the refs or the opponents fault, because in the end, all it matters is whether these plays help the team.

You can win without being tough.

Now football, that's a prerequisite.

I think we got a good blend of smart play and toughness. Pure tough was turns into the grizzlies which only gets you so far

What is the last "Soft" team to win a championship.

I remember when the best team in the NBA and

championship favorites in MAVS were soft as hell

behind dirk, and they got they ass whooped in the first

round by the warriors.

They went out and got some physical players like Chandler

and they come back to win a championship.

Tough Physical teams win championships in the NBA. Period

Is your world that black and white? Just because I said you don't have to be tough ( used in the context the OP used) to win a chip, doesn't mean I said a soft team can win. I also think you're confusing toughness with defensive presence. The Mavs weren't known and didn't have a defensive presence so they went and got Chandler. His "toughness" didn't win it for them, his defensive presence helped them over the hump.

By your definition of what a soft team is, wouldn't the Miami Heat fall under that category?

Same with the Spurs.

And for the record Tyson Chandler is about as tough as 90% of the league. There's a difference between a defensive player and a tough player.

Miami heat is no where near a soft team. Someone actually made a reel

on youtube of miami's toughness. They shoving people, throwing elbows, and they

have haslem and birdman to give hard fouls and clothesline people who get to rough

with lebron. Spurs are tough as well.

Because toughness isn't a "Stat" many people just don't know what it

is. Hence why you would ask about Miami heat, when they are as tough

as they come.

Just like the pacers.

Chandler is a hardnose (or was) bang in the paint,

physical defensive center. 90% of the league is nowhere

near as tough and physical as Chandler.

I'm starting to get my hopes up - the next game will tell us a lot. Don't want to be disappointed but i think we are the most talented team in west. Might not be able to beat thunder but I think this team should reach conference finals. Anything less is a major disappointment

Not that I'm arguing against you, but that seems to be exactly what you're saying here.

In any case, I do think today's NBA makes toughness into an asset. You can be physical and get away with it, just look at the way the refs let Memphis hit us last season. The obvious exception is if you're name happens to be Kevin Durant, in which case its absolutely unacceptable.

I don't know if I would say we are building toughness because we were already a tough team. What we've seen so far this year is our guys learning how to grind it out. We were always great playing fast and free but have learned how to win even when we are not playing that great. We still want to rum and play free but if anyone decides they want to play slow and ugly we are not afraid anymore to get right down in the mud and slug it out.

Agreed, what people generally describe as toughness in the NBA is kind of overrated, and if our win, you're automatically considered tougher too.

Sorry, no it doesn't. You seem to think not being tough automatically means soft. I don't see it that way...You do. I suggest you read the first post to get a context of what he means by tough. My rebuttal is specifically catered to the context of what he describes as tough. A coach getting techs , getting into the face of the refs, and not backing down to anyone is just some of what he describes as "tough".

You describe the Griz as being tough but they don't have a chip to show for it. A team like the Spurs who I don't consider "tough, by your standards, beat them to get to the finals. Look at us this year, they're still beating us. The Grizz have a identity and it fits them well. We don't have that but I feel we can get further than them playing our way.

As far as us being tough, JJ went to shake the hand of Cousins after he smakced him down. Add insult to injury, Cousins left JJ with his D*** in his hands while he walked away. we are who we are but I don't think we're soft.

To me, there are two types of styles in the NBA that win chips. They are, finese or tough. To me, finese is like the Lakers teams that did their SHOWTIME styles to win 3....

Clippers are a TOUGHNESS team, we forced so many 20 sec violations last night and our defense Choked them!

Toughness is really overrated. As long as your team isn't super soft its fine and our team definitely isn't that despite what some critics say.