Our play has been spotty/inconsistent since All star break (7-5)
Coaching/leadership in question (is Vinny the right fit)
We have trouble running half court sets
Seems like this team is more concerned about making highlights rather than grinding it out, playing defense or finding ways to win.
We've fallen from a 1 seed to a 5 seed
Too much talent not being utilized to fullest potential
Possibility of Chris not resigning
I think we are all concerned.
By the way we are 4th at the moment.
I believe that because of the way the seeding works, we're actually more or less guaranteed the 4th seed minimum unless we completely tank (lose 8 or more games), and Golden State wins everything from here on out. I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure as a division leader, we can't fall below 4th, despite Denver having a better record currently.
That said, it's never nice to only be holding on to the seed like that when there's a team with a better record below us.
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If that is the scenario I think we have 4th seed but not home court adv (not sure though)
We need the home court advantage especially if we are playing against Denver. Against Memphis we should beat them with homecourt but either way it will be very close. Right now, we just need to play better and secure homecourt in the first round, whether it be the 3rd or 4th seed.
I will be extremely worried if we don't get homecourt in the first round. If we get homecourt in the first round, I'll be just a little worried because it will still be a tough series against Denver, Memphis, or gsw.
As I've said in other posts, this team may be fools gold like Barkley said. LAL is one game behind the Rockets and there might be a fight for 6th. We are really 5th
My numbers may be wrong because I can't add 2 and 2 please correct them BUT since Jan
LAC 20-15
LAL 21-17 Kobe and D12 are on the same page
Mem 22-12 On a roll
Den 29-7 Doesn't lose at home, on a roll
GSW We got blown out, not peaking
Does this bother anybody? All these teams are peaking while we're dumping. Does anybody want to take my $100 bet that we make it to the second round. Who can we with assurance beat? We can beat Houston. Maybe GSW
Mike Smith was obviously PISSED. Yes we were short two guards but we should have won. Hill is 2 for a million and we need him BAD. Even last yr with PHX he was an offensive threat.
This is not all the coach. If we lose CP3 even with Billups starting (All star. has a ring etc) we're screwed
WE STILL GET TORCHED BY THE THREE BALL
Where is our defense? Yes Bledsoe is out BUT SO WHAT? Crank it up guys. Get DJ a sports psycologist. He now can't hit anything at all. Gone is 50%. Is maybe 30% at best. he had a great game BUT. The only good part is BG is starting to show true brilliance
Unless something is done now it's one and done. The one may not be pretty
Hell yes !!!!!
Just like last year
I truly think momentum means nothing come the postseason just like playing not so hot. Ill be worried if we start bumming it up in the playoffs
Yesterday morning,,no. Today, highly. This team cannot get on a run at all and if you cannot do that, you do not last in playoffs. Plus we are just getting our injuries at the wrong time. Yeah,,pretty worried now Not about making playoffs, about lasting at all in playoffs.
I've worried enough being a Clipper fan.. I was down last night.... Pissed off.. ect.. Had a good workout after the game though. Bottom line is.. I've been a Clipper fan for a long time. I've gone through (a lot) of bad seasons. We are playing bad right now.. But even playing bad we are better than we were past seasons.. I remember sitting at #10 a lot of seasons just shooting for that last playoff spot.. #10 was a good year. We have a good team. We have the tools to be better. All we have to do is "get" better. It can happen. It will happen. Be patient.
I like your attitude 
woke up on the right side of the bed this morning. We are in the playoff's. Being in the playoff's gives us a chance.. If last night was our last game and we got knocked out of the playoff's i'd be more bummed.. But it wasnt. We are still in the playoff's and still have a chance at a championship. Maybe we start a new winning streak in the 1st round? You never know. Getting down about it and saying we will lose every game and blah blah blah isnt going to get anyone anywhere. Suck it up and push forward.
1995 Houston rockets were a 6th seed going into the playoff's with a 47-35 record and won the NBA Championship. We are currently 46-22 and 4th place... I dont see a problem with winning it all still.. do you?
I see 2 problems with winning it all Miami & LeBron! and that was what in 95?
Also I don't know if anyone's noticed or anything but, when we lose close games they're not close, we just let down and the other team creaks the thing wide open to a 12-15 point lead, last night, Memphis, Denver, OKC! And I think that's partly due to coaching cause the players don't know what to do panic/frustrate, and the other teams lick their chops just waiting for us to break down. We have no consistency or continuity in our defense or offense.
I'm concerned whenever we have Jamal Crawford running the point. Can't wait to have Bledsoe back.
When Bledsoe is in he just gives it to Crawford anyway, haven't you guys noticed that? Bledsoe just dumps the ball and camps in the corner.
I'm horribly concerned. If the season started now we'd have trouble making the POs. For those of you know more than I do WHY THE --- CAN'T WE DEFEND THREES? You get in front of the guy and put a hand in his face.
I don't see a fire in their belly. Where is our "Chemistry"? Where is "Everybody's having fun"?
My problem. This team is better than last year. With the exception of KMart everything we've done has worked out well.
Blake is way better Jamal is better than Young Barnes is manna from heaven Bledsoe is better
There is nothing worse about the team yet when we lose it's not even close. We get blown out on TNT twice. We can't even get fired up for that. Making mistakes is acceptable. You have to screw up to learn but it's inexcusable to make the same mistake twice let alone over and over. CP3 said that we keep making the same mistakes. A good team or even a "B" quality team doesn't do that
Get your doctor to give you lots of Prozac if things don't change fast
Some of us have been concerned for some time.
Too many things to list. And I dont want to repeat myself. And I'll keep it short so I won't get my neck snapped off, but this team looks like it's going through the motions.
I wasn't concerned until last night. Sure, I could chalk it up to the fact that the Kings are apparently the highest scoring team since the all star break. But so what? Houston was a high scoring team and we beat them twice. Plus, we should have a better defense than Sac.
I was one of Chauncey's staunchest defenders here...now I'm wondering if we are actually worse with him in the starting lineup. Granted, that can change in the playoffs considering he's a former Finals MVP and maybe can turn it up then. Not that Chauncey's playing bad per se, I'm just not sure Paul is the same player with Chauncey starting with him, even though he says he's more at ease playing along side Billups. For some reason we were playing better with Willie Green starting. I don't know why exactly. Green was a low production player and didn't really play a lot of minutes. Maybe is defense was a little better than the older, oft injured Billups? Maybe Green cuts to the basket a few times more than Chauncey? Maybe we need to go back to the exact lineup that was so successful in the first half of the season.
Obviously, that's not the only key, but maybe going back to where we were lineup-wise will help us go back to where we were in terms of intensity. We definitely need to play better defense. Switch more quickly to the perimeter shooters. DJ must establish himself as one of the league's best shot blockers, because let's face it, stronger D on the perimeter means less effective D inside.
Finally, we need CP3 to take advantage of what the defense gives him. There's no need for him to force anything because people keep telling him to become a scorer. He wasn't worried about all that in the first half of the season. He was doing what came naturally....which is to say being the Best Point Guard in the NBA at the time.
Some of the cahnges that I think have been detrimental with our injured ones coming back are as follow
1) What in the heck is up with this CP3 post-up crap going on in the post? Let BG and DJ take care of that.
2) What in the heck is going on with this Hill Odom combo crap as our bigs from the bench? We need rebounding and defense, not a bunch of 3 and mid range shooters, when they're together, we have absolutely no inside presence defense or offense, Turiaf was a much better option for backup C, even Hollins.
^^Yep. We're better with Willie Green because he can recover on defense. Chauncey is just too out of shape and fragile at this point. If he's not draining 3's like in the Laker game, he's a huge liability.
Concerned? Yes.
Panicking? No.
I'm in favor of putting Bledsoe in starting line up with Chris Paul and put Chauncey in the backup point guard position. Sure, the second units would lack the defense from Bledsoe, but I think we can all agree that defense is really needed. Also Chauncey don't really like being 2 guard so might as well have someone younger to establish a tempo in our defense.
I'm so in favor in not putting Grant Hill in the 4. He had not been playing well ever since he came back from his injury. I even rather have Turiaf, he at least provide rebound and some defense anchor.
We can get away with our lack of half court offense because we have Chris Paul. But VDN and the crew still have no f***** clue how to stop the 3 ball. It's the same crap every game. 3pointer there, 3pointer here.
As for the 1995 Rockets...yes, they were the 6 seed. But they were also the defending champs. We're not.
Not worried about Chris Paul's future with the team. Definitely worried that Denver/Memphis are on fire and we are going the other direction. We'll come out and win tonight but we cannot afford to lose games to the worst teams in the league regardless of injuries. No excuse for last night. It's scary because they all know that we are in a virtual tie with those other two teams and just a couple losses out of our last 15 games could mean we fall to 5th. There should be a playoff mentality NOW and it's not there. Denver has it. Memphis has it. We don't have it and we haven't for some time.
Definitely worrisome and I don't know what is the solution. We have a team full of streaky players. Only Blake gives the same max production every night. CP3 goes 2-12 or something close to that last night. Seemed like our shooters were all off and it seems like this is trend. Either they're all hitting or they're all missing. When we make 3's, we win every time. When we don't, it's tough.
Even with their ridiculous shooting at the end of the game, we still win if Lamar can keep his head in the game and stay on the court. 90 seconds of DJ in the 4th just killed us. Shows what happens when he's in there in crunch time: We lose games.
If we end up without home court in the first round, last night will be the game that was the turning point.
Hate to say I told you so but i've been complaining about this stuff all year. During the win streak I kept saying it would eventually all start biting us in the ass. Yet people just thought I was being paranoid and nitpicking. Now that teams know how we play, our sheer talent won't overwhelm people anymore.
Aren't you guys curious about Ebled's injury? Saying a calf problem sure doesn't narrow anything down.
So,,we could wake up in 3rd again tomorrow,,,,isn't this fun?????????????
Concerned??? "Hell yeah!!!!"
If we don't have home court advantage vs Memphis or Denver, it will be very tough to win. Although we did it last year, it will still be tough.
As I've mentioned ad nauseum except for Houston I'm not sure we can beat anybody if we played like we did against the Kings. I'm worried.
1 We have no energy. Hollins , Roni, Ebled bring it. Why do we need them? Why doesn't our first string do it?
Billups will never come off the bench unless he chooses. This isn't even worth discussion
I was going to post this but Mike Smith was intelligent enough to say it for me. Odom should be an offensive threat. Our offense should be run through BG and
D Andre Jordan DJ, BG and CP3 should be a three man wrecking crew. BG and DJ should own the paint. Mike has wondered as have I the whole season why don't we post up DJ? He obviously had done work and has made BRILLANT MOVES. Why wasn't he in at garbage posting up? He made a nice layup and baby hook. He with practice can have good hands. If he gets doubled he can pass to BG. He can shoot or nobody can beat his first step Why do we depend on Caron to hit threes. Go inside outside
I don't get it. This is how you win PO games. If we don't own the paiont we will have problems. Why didn't we run plays for LO at garbage?
VDN wake up
While the top 4 western teams are exchanging blows with each other clips are playing peekaboo with non PO teams, said before, clips will never win the championship with VDN at the helm
The thing that the Clippers need to do is not get relaxed and think that they can turn on a "switch" when they need to. They need to fix the defficiencies that have plagued them all year long because if you think you can coast to a playoff spot and simply wake up at the start of the playoffs you're in trouble.
Now is the time to get serious, win your games, and fix the problems that you need to.
You forgot the number 1 concern which is 3 point defense. The lack of urgency and effort from players has concerned me the most.
A good amount of times, the defensive issues aren't effort related, they are communication related. Guys don't know who they are supposed to get and where they are supposed to rotate to, and they end up scrambling around, and then someone is left open on the opposing team.
The Level of FAN'S SUPPORTING THEIR TEAM... Is very high on this forum.
I agree with most of the sentiment shared here. I have been wondering about Chauncey's effectiveness as a starter and the Clips may be better off with using their line up earlier in the season. I am also wondering (because of the overall mentality of this team) if the lack of actual games has hurt them. They are a very rhythmic team and I think by them not playing 4 games a week has hurt them and made them less focused, because they have so many days off. I believed that a couple of days ago it was mentioned in an article (maybe about Crawford) that the team is in the "dog days" of the season, they already know they are in the playoffs so the biggest hurdle is getting up for games. Having said all that, the current standings and overall out look would look a lot different if the OKC game wasn't officiated so badly in first half and that the last game against the Griz had they not been making everything they threw up (that won't happen in a seven game series). I hope they can get their sh!$ together, I really do just for moral sake, but in any case I still like their chances against anyone in a seven game series, especially in the playoffs.
First GUYS Chauncey will never come off the bench period. It won't happen
I love this team since Keith Kloss but reality checks are needed
Memphis beat us. Nick Young's threes were a miracle only exceeded by the secoming of Christ. WE LOST We got blown out by the Spurs. In other words we were one and done and it's the same this year.
We have no personality. Last yr with KMart at least we were tough. We're not tough like Memphis. We're not the Showtime Lakers.We aren't the well oiled machine like the Spurs. We are Fools Gold -- Reality Check
Our shooters are streakey, our defense can be suspect, our three point defense is awful. We often play with no energy. Our "Bench Mob" is having troubles. We should own the paint and we don't. I haven't been on the Fire VDN but it's the coach's fault.
Our only strengths are lobs and alley oops. Ander Miller is as good as CP3. Alley oops are good as an intimidation in your face factor not as a part of your offense especially in the PO's
We have big problems
Yes getting a little concerned...
The team should be supported in the sense that we don't turn our back on them or jump onto another bandwagon but it seems most Clippers fans confuse denial for loyalty. Bringing up obvious problems and complaining about them isn't a loyalty issue.
The team should be supported in the sense that we don't turn our back on them or jump onto another bandwagon but it seems most Clippers fans confuse denial for loyalty. Bringing up obvious problems and complaining about them isn't a loyalty issue.
Exactly. It's called tough love. If anything like you implied Page... you're more likely to find fake or bandwagon fans among those who blindly support a team. Why? Because only those who truly care would get as upset as we do enough to complain or get emotional about this stuff. If I didn't love the Clippers with a passion, I wouldn't even give a sh** if they play like they don't give a damn or lose games.
This fanbase reminds me a bit of the Knicks fanbase(obviously not as obnoxious). Every season I point out a few flaws that the team has and everyone just ignores me and calls me a hater or something but in the end what I said holds true. This season I basically said the Knicks were too old, relied too much on three point shooting, and didn't play defense consistently.
When it comes to the Clippers we also have a lot of glaring issues like 3 point defense, half court offense, and coaching. These issues are pretty much undeniable at this point and I have been worried about them since the beginning of the season. This does not mean we can't fix these problems but the season is almost over and nothing seems to have changed.
I still think we have a chance of making a deep playoff run but with these problems its going to be a lot harder imo especially if we don't get HCA.
The team should be supported in the sense that we don't turn our back on them or jump onto another bandwagon but it seems most Clippers fans confuse denial for loyalty. Bringing up obvious problems and complaining about them isn't a loyalty issue.
I stand corrected... I've just seen fans come and go sooo many times with the same attitude you have Clippersfan... But like you said, they aren't fans if they do that. It just sucks seeing :/
Fans do not put the ball through the hoop. Fans don't get a rebound Fans don't box out and fans don't defend the three. Players do that.
With knowledge comes responsibility. The coach knows what's wrong. If someone (not the fans) don't own these problems then we can't complain and we don't deserve to win.
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(I kinda like the period end of story sh*t. I've never seen it here before, A first)
@JoeClipplet
I understand it can be a bit annoying when myself and others act negative but it's just me venting in all honesty. I'm not a hater about these things because the minute they do them well I praise them. For example I shred DJ every game pretty much because he plays like an idiot but on the rare occasion he has great games i'm one of the first to praise him.
Of course you can always tell somebody "complaining won't solve anything" but if you want to be technical that applies to everything in life. We don't have control over much but it's good to get it off your chest and talk among people who can relate.
I'm still hearing ping pong balls.
