Chris Paul Sent Home and No Longer a Clipper

Shocked at this. Was Chris Paul a problem behind the scenes? Or just wanted to go out on a winning team which Clippers are not going to be this year?

To be clear, CP3 is not being waived. He is still on the roster which I assume is for trade purposes

If I had to take a shot in the dark, I'm thinking this was what I sort of predicted when he signed. A no lose signing on the cheap. If he plays well then great. if not, he's cheap and if he starts acting up and getting under people's skin then you just waive him. Seems like they got the best of both worlds by just having him stay home so that his contract can be aggregated in a trade

Or, he's just tired of the losing and wants to go to a winner to finish his career

Whatever may be the reason, this surely has an effect on the public relations - for a while.

This season is the worst since I have been following them. It is a rudderless team! Not much hope in salvaging this season.

Sad.

Yeah, it sucks to be bad and not control your own draft pick.

I'm thinking that the Clippers need to try the Houston, Brooklyn or Philly model meaning get your draft pics back via trading James Harden but I just don't know if at this age, he has enough pull to get draft picks back

The best bet at this point is to get well under the cap. I know that people get scared of another 213 backfiring but when so many or your picks are gone to OKC and Philly plus the league might take even more of them down the line, you have to be realistic and start thinking about trades and free agency. Given that so many of the current players are very old and thus don't have trade value, you start to zero in on free agency. I say get $100 million under and zero in on players that don't have greedy uncles

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/282983/Ty-Lue-Chris-Paul-Werent-On-Speaking-Terms-For-Several-Weeks

Just going to leave this here. More on why I believe Lue is the worst coach in the NBA. No accountability for nobody.

Maybe you can have CP3 take over as coach.

https://www.si.com/nba/lou-williams-chris-paul-clippers-comments

Our front office must be dismantled and the whole team replaced. From COMPLETELY misreading the right play with Kawhi and turning OKC into a dynasty, to assembling a nursing home that underachieves. But now you're going to take away the One Guy who has done the most for our franchise?

Don't care if he fought with Lue, he's more of a Clipper than any of them up there. Let him ride the pine and end his career a Clipper you freaking Error machines!!!

From everything I've read and what you linked as well, CP was critical of the very front office that you spoke about. No surprise there as I actually agree with him

Surprised that he rubbed Ty Lue the wrong way. CP has been an adamant supporter of coaches that he can "relate to" so not sure what started the rift between them. That's something that I would be interested to find out

And what if he clashed with players?

Dude is a hot head and his skills are not there to allow him some "leeway".

Your age and your maturity are not on the same level. You are still not a good leader. And at this point you are a problem maker.

He may have a point, but you don't act in a way that gets you sent home. You're not Chris Jr, this is not daycare.

I know reports are saying he had issues with T Lue, but it doesn't mean that T Lue is not trying to protect a clash from other players.

Also it likely means that he is not being a Vet that is teaching the few young players we have...

Oh and it still does not excuse his grown a** from acting like a petulant child.

He is old and experienced enough to know how to navigate difficult waters. He is wise enough to know what would help. I am sure he could have had the ear of Ballmer or Frank, DIRECTLY, and navigated his grievances with T Lue.

it’s time for Baller to put his big boy pants on and make some executive decisions.. I believe there’s more to the story of Chris Paul being just let go. I am sure he was quite aware of it now don’t you wish you had Terrence Mann and you had coffee and you had Powell back on the team I sure do

Wow that was interesting to hear Ty Lue and CP3 haven't spoken in weeks, and that Paul's leadership style wasn't a good fit for the locker room. Couple that with CP3 not exactly playing well it's addition by subtraction. The Clippers need that open roster spot to bring someone in who will be more impactful.

Ty Lue needs to go and so does Frank. I’m not saying CP was right or wrong in his approach but obviously accountability has not been there. Then there’s the haven’t spoken in weeks which is crazy from the head coach and his back up point.

Firsy, what has Ty done wrong? Nothing. You can't make a statue from a pile of s***.. Signing CP was one of the dumbest things we ever did. Did the teams he led go anywhere? No Accordong to Keyyon Martin CP3 was one of the most disliked players in the NBA. Doc Rivers said that CP refused to take orders and did what he wanted. He rode DJ so hard that he quit. I said he was a cancer when he tried to start a fight in the locker room. The forst thing he did when he left was criticize the FO for not having a "winning Culture'

If he hadn't gotten injured trading E Gordon and Kaman for CP was REAL stupid although not world class stupid. Blake and EJ were the highest scoring duo in the league. With a star but not HOF point guard they wold have been better. His narcissism is so huge that he thinks he is relavant. If he had gotten 10+ mid tange shaor and 4 assista off the bench life would be good but an an*s doesn't change it's wrinkles.

There is no excuse for a bench player not to speak to a coach. That player goes before the **** crows thrice. The shoe does not control the brain.

Ballmer is a man who is used to be in total control as a multi billion CEO. He might delegate but everyboby does whaat he wants. Look at Trump and THIS IS NOT PO:ITICAL it's about management style. He has always known exactly who does what and tends to micro manage and if you don't do what he's thinking not what he will say you're gone.The government is an extension of his will. Again I am not commenting on his politics but his style as a business man

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In my medical practice I had the misfortune to take care of a general. He kept notes of everything that happened and the time The time the nurses arrived with his meds, the names of nurses and how they performed with exact times were in a note book. Some medicines may be made by different companies so the same medicine could be a big blue pill, a yellow little pill etc. He kept notes on pill size and color. This is Ballmer. Do you really think that he doesn't have full control and sets the tone.of this team? I could be wrong but I read somewhere that he hires the best then stands back and lets them do their jobs and watches.. He hired players who have BEEN "the best" in other words proven players. Win Now. It might work in business but not B Ball.. Don't you see the different and successful style of DTS vs. the failure of Balmer. Please, not the irrelvant racism

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Think about it and I am 100% serious. What person without a serious ego problem and a full diaper would act a total fool? The whole world is watching him act like a clown and he loves being at the center of attention exactly like Trump. It's called "Look at ME world" and he has no shame. He probably has a narrcissistic personality disorder like Trump. This is not politics. Being a narcissistic sociopath does not make you a bad president. or business person. Sometimes it makes you a good one.

Name one thing Ty has done that deserves firing. There isn't one.

After watching the game CP must have s*it in the punch bowl if you youngsters know what punch is. He has forfeited his legacy. His would have been the first jersey to be retired and now he'll be remembered as the guy kicked off the team which i don't think I've ever heard of. I always called him the Point Gourd and he lived up to it.

Fireable offense- He is the has been the coach for several years and we still don’t have an offensive system. ISO ball from past stars is not an offensive system.

Fireable offense- no identity as a team other than ISO heavy. Not a defensive team, rebounding team, definitely not offensive efficiency, nothing.

Fireable offense- no accountability players lack effort and still get playing time.

Fireable offense- dropping 3-1 leads

Fireable offense- not speaking to a player on your team for 2 weeks when you are supposed to be turning the team around is crazy.

Fireable offense- He hasn’t developed any young talent when it is clearly what is needed on a team as old as ours.

Fireable offense- plays favorites regardless of what is better for the team.

Fireable offense- several years to get some results with only getting worse as a result.

Did I mention our record or how ugly our teams play is. I mean I could go on forever.

You've got a point. And I agree... but he's a "player's coach" and a media darling. Also he's gotten the job done and wears a championship ring (or stores it somewhere - lol).

Harden is also an iso player, so you work with what you've got.

I am not going to disagree with your assessment, just not sold that hiring a different coach will do anything to change the trajectory of this roster (besides piss off Harden a bit - potentially).

It was rumored that Paul and Harden didn't get along in Houston, so this is not surprising.

That his attitude is not wanted here. This isn't a team like San Antonio or his Oklahoma City team.

But, there's also a right time and place to send someone home, or tell them to stay way for conduct detrimental to the team. 2am in the morning is not the right time and place.

This reminded me of Glenn Rice hitting a game winner, then getting waived a month later. In terms of bad optics by the organization.

It annoys me that we don't see Steve Nash going 0/2 from the foul line, which is what set up the Clippers having the possession and timeout.

I hate it when videos or clips don't show important made or missed free throws.

1.Our team is built aroung ISO. For several years we were the #1 offense till the bottom fell out from being too old and slow. He can't grow youth. 213 were both ISO players.

2,Who on the squad was dogging it?

3 Doc blew leads. The OKC disaster? Dunleavy blew it when he started Livingston. How is it all Ty's fault? The fact that he lost and his ability as a coach are not one and the same.

4 Who didn't he not speak to? CP3 and Doc were barely on speaking terms per Doc If an EMPLOYEE disrespect their boss should the boss make nice. or treat them like the as*hole they are. Do you know why? Nope.

5 We have had zero young talent. How can he develop it. Who?

6 I don't understand "playing favorites" Nobody knows what happens at practice time and losing because you want to help your buddy doesn't happen unless you're Doc. One exception Coffey.and we don't even know why.

7 He has gotten results. Last year's team should have gone nowhere, Over the years with injuries he rarely has had a stable line up.

8 Again what talent? Diabate'?

This team just wasn't as good in real life as it was on paper. The Bubble proved that

Quote by BG:

"I'm just disappointed... to be honest. I can't think of really another word, obviously shocked at first. But disappointed. I'm disappointed for Chris Paul but I'm disappointed in the Clippers organization.

I mean Chris Paul is a guy that came to the Clippers when DeAndre and I were first and second year guys. He brought a winning culture. He taught us how to operate in the NBA and how to take every game seriously, how to take your body seriously, that there was no detail that was too small.

And we weren't perfect... Like, we didn't ultimately win a championship. I know that, I'm reminded of it every day. And CP and I didn't always see eye to eye.

But, I'm disappointed because we got to a franchise that was synonymous with jokes. Like, you heard the Clippers, and you heard cursed. And, again, we didn't win a championship but we did create a culture and environment that people respected.

You know, every year you knew the Clippers were gonna be competitive and Chris Paul for 20 years has been the same player. He's been about winning.

And you know, resigned with the Clippers.

This was supposed to be his moment, you know... coming back to LA. I'm giving it one last go... And for him to not get to walk out on his own terms from the franchise that he chose to go to to end his career... is extremely disappointed. But I think the biggest reason I'm disappointed is what Chris said.

No communication with Ty Lue, and even more than that, no communication (I talked to CP Wednesday, I talked to him yesterday, I talked to him today)... No communication with Steve Ballmer.

And that's the disappointing thing for me."

My point is ISO should not be what we are built around.

Still no identity, everyone but the young guys dog it.

Ty was there with Doc blowing the lead.

I’ve been an assistant coach at semipro level there is no way staff is not talking to a player for weeks. Just cuz Doc did it is not a good excuse.

We can agree to disagree on what our potential has been, is or was. The result has gotten worse.

Playing Morris, PJ etc… when they are clearly unplayable has to be favorites.

You aren’t going to develop anyone on the bench. Mann was a grueling thing to watch, both Kobe’s now and Jordan Miller.

Personally I think with better coaching we can go further in each of the last few years so let just agree to disagree and you can be happy going back to having our team sucking.

I think an insane scenario would be the Clippers just cleaning house.... and CP3 becoming the actual Head Coach out of nowhere.

It has now become clear what happened. Ty would say one thing and CP would tell the players something else and he was talking behing Ty's back in the locker room undermining him and going over Ty's head. It is NOT CP's team He is here as a courtesy. STFU PERIOD, 100% his fault. KL was having trouble guarding Klay and CP asked if he needed a rest and told him to guard somebody else. That's why. I would sit CP on the bench the whole season and send him home the last week unless he publicy apologizes and stops. Back....

How is Ty an elite coach? What are you looking at? What do you see that tells you he’s elite? I don’t get you feelings for Ty, I can understand not liking Chris but more than one thing can be true. CP can be an a$$, Ty is incompetent, Frank is terrible and BG foes feel like a spurned lover, players can have part of the blame but he’s supposed to be in charge of the ship.

A quite detailed account of the decision:

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/47316812/inside-ugly-chris-paul-la-clippers-divorce-nba-season-disaster-end-kawhi-leonard-era