Rumor Questions Doc Rivers' Work Ethics

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Insiders complained about a lack of accountability �" about practices and shootarounds starting late

Some unhappy camper(s) in the Clippers inner-circle seems to be calling out Doc Rivers' dedication for both a coach and chief exec of the team. What do you guys make of this? I have a feeling that Doc may have this upcoming season to prove his worth or else the hammer may fall.

http://nba.nbcsports.com/2017/07/14/rumor-clippers-presidentcoach-doc-rivers-work-ethic-not-up-to-snuff/

I think he just needs some time off...

Like forever. He's paid millions to do an excellent job. If they wanted a f*ck up I'd do it for $5 mill. Ballmer will not tolerate lack f work ethic. Doc has not gone further than VDN.. Why not fire Doc and re hire VDN at a lower price/

toohipcliptoslip wrote:
Like forever. He's paid millions to do an excellent job. If they wanted a f*ck up I'd do it for $5 mill. Ballmer will not tolerate lack f work ethic. Doc has not gone further than VDN.. Why not fire Doc and re hire VDN at a lower price/

I would rather have a new blood in our HC job than bringing back VDN, There's a lot of good Assistant coach in the NBA and H coaches in colleges.

He does have the tendency to cancel many practice during the season

With some heat under him now I wonder if he will dare start Austin? Also will he finally give the youngsters some playing time?

I read the article on Bleachers and I think its spot on, just in hearing Clippers teammates say that Doc doesn't believe in frequent practices especially with newer additions, they must watch film footage. If anyone heard Cp3 Houston presser, he said allot without pointing to Doc in saying he wanted to be with an organization that's about winning. There were so many subliminal messages from that presser that I'm certain there's problem in the locker room. I didn't think it wise to give Cp3 the maximum although he's a future hall of famer but as so many pointed out he only took the Clippers to 2nd round once in that not forgotten Houston series. Another thing that puzzled me was in his choice to Houston as opposed to staying put in thinking Houston could win the championship before the Clippers. It all points to problems with Clippers F/O and Doc's coaching or lack thereof.

Snafu wrote:
With some heat under him now I wonder if he will dare start Austin? Also will he finally give the youngsters some playing time?

Of course he will start Austin, He is the BO and HC, and that's the reason he needs to go instead of Austin, because he is the one who has the control of this team. He should bring with him Mike Woodson and Frank Lawrence.

Anxioustobebest wrote:
I read the article on Bleachers and I think its spot on, just in hearing Clippers teammates say that Doc doesn't believe in frequent practices especially with newer additions, they must watch film footage. If anyone heard Cp3 Houston presser, he said allot without pointing to Doc in saying he wanted to be with an organization that's about winning. There were so many subliminal messages from that presser that I'm certain there's problem in the locker room. I didn't think it wise to give Cp3 the maximum although he's a future hall of famer but as so many pointed out he only took the Clippers to 2nd round once in that not forgotten Houston series. Another thing that puzzled me was in his choice to Houston as opposed to staying put in thinking Houston could win the championship before the Clippers. It all points to problems with Clippers F/O and Doc's coaching or lack thereof.

One thing you can say about the GMs in Houston and OKC is that they are not shy about moving pieces one way or another. A different GM with the Clippers may have broken up the DJ and BG brotherhood in order to improve the team's chances of winning.

He is on his last straw for sure. One more strike and he's out. He will be given this year to prove that he's about it. Won't be surprised if he gets fired mid-season if something specific happens.

I agree...Doc has 2 strikes and no balls... ( no pun intended..)

With the roster he inherited and then Jerry West had to come in and save the day...

Doc is one foot out the door.

If we are not off to a great start, like 6th place in the west or better.. Sam should take over..or another assistant coach.

I really wish he would just resign and take the pressure off of Ballmer to fire him. I feel like Ballmer is extremely loyal and grateful to Doc for helping him transition into ownership, but there has been constant drama with Doc in his role that's been seemingly impossible to keep under wraps. Whether it's news of drama between Doc and Clippers business execs, players or opposing GM's not wanting to deal with Doc, or his stale voice in the media when addressing any situation. There's always been something with Doc and that accumulative negative energy is holding the entire organization back.

There's simply no way this level of discontent could be expressed by so many different people and not be legitimate to some extent. GM's, coaches, refs, players and reporters are all tired of him. We need a new face and a new voice.

All great points Keaton. I'm just surprised that it hasn't been addressed. There are just too many reports of Doc negatively involved in something

I think Ballmer will part ways with doc either before the season or mid season. I can see a situation like Cleveland where they fired Blatt mid season and promoted Lue.

Hopefully we fire doc and I'd like to give cassell a chance.

ClipperPostman wrote:
I think Ballmer will part ways with doc either before the season or mid season. I can see a situation like Cleveland where they fired Blatt mid season and promoted Lue.

Hopefully we fire doc and I'd like to give cassell a chance.

don't get my hopes up. I hope you're right, and Cassell will be a great suggestion

ClipperPostman wrote:
I think Ballmer will part ways with doc either before the season or mid season. I can see a situation like Cleveland where they fired Blatt mid season and promoted Lue.

Hopefully we fire doc and I'd like to give cassell a chance.

I wish you are the guy who always sit with Balmer at Staples in every game, and you whisper him what we are discussing here in newssurge.

cobra wrote:
I would rather have a new blood in our HC job than bringing back VDN, There's a lot of good Assistant coach in the NBA and H coaches in colleges.

Sorry VDN was a joke.

Keatonsays wrote:
I really wish he would just resign and take the pressure off of Ballmer to fire him. I feel like Ballmer is extremely loyal and grateful to Doc for helping him transition into ownership, but there has been constant drama with Doc in his role that's been seemingly impossible to keep under wraps. Whether it's news of drama between Doc and Clippers business execs, players or opposing GM's not wanting to deal with Doc, or his stale voice in the media when addressing any situation. There's always been something with Doc and that accumulative negative energy is holding the entire organization back.

There's simply no way this level of discontent could be expressed by so many different people and not be legitimate to some extent. GM's, coaches, refs, players and reporters are all tired of him. We need a new face and a new voice.

First, how do we know Ballmer is loyal to Doc? He just hasn't fired him yet. Steve may have just been giving Doc a chance. Why should Steve be loyal? Doc hasn't earned it. Doc's name is not Doc Ballmer.That would be nepotism it it were.

How do know he's grateful? There is no evidence to support that. As far as the difficulties, a winner finds a way to succeed, a loser makes excuses. Steve didn't become a billionaire by making excuses. He did it by turning BS cow pies into chocolate brownies.Why is West here?

Why should Doc quit? He's making a mint if he's good or bad. When the money talks the BS walks.

Remember, it's DARWIN'S RULES.

toohipcliptoslip wrote:
First, how do we know Ballmer is loyal to Doc? He just hasn't fired him yet. Steve may have just been giving Doc a chance. Why should Steve be loyal? Doc hasn't earned it. Doc's name is not Doc Ballmer.That would be nepotism it it were.

How do know he's grateful? There is no evidence to support that. As far as the difficulties, a winner finds a way to succeed, a loser makes excuses. Steve didn't become a billionaire by making excuses. He did it by turning BS cow pies into chocolate brownies.Why is West here?

Why should Doc quit? He's making a mint if he's good or bad. When the money talks the BS walks.

Remember, it's DARWIN'S RULES.

We don't know that Ballmer is loyal to Doc which is why i said "i feel like...". It's my own personal opinion/observation. I also said "I wish Doc would resign" because I know there's no good reason for him to walk away from his salary and title. If Ballmer fires him, he keeps the salary and goes on vacation - if he resigns he walks away from the money.

I think we sometimes assume that Ballmer's $30billion net worth is evidence that he always makes good business decisions and always wins. If you remember the "Zune" then you know he's had his fair share of failures and isn't immune to making mistakes. Promoting Doc to president of Basketball operations may have seemed like a good move at the time, but Doc's tenure has been so tumultuous and unsuccessful, that the only logical reason for him to still have his job is Steve Ballmer is loyal/grateful to him. At least that's all i can come up with.

If Doc were to walk away, it would be purely a matter of honor/respect, which doesn't go too far when it's Darwin's rules.

The way Doc and Steve Ballmer were snuggled up close to each other during a summer league game tells me Doc isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

Clemenza wrote:
The way Doc and Steve Ballmer were snuggled up close to each other during a summer league game tells me Doc isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
LMFAO, you just painted a very creepy visual for me, but yeah Doc seems to have his tentacles all wrapped around Ballmer. Despite everything, Doc has been charismatic enough to keep his job for a long time despite the on-court results

Old school here, the past 6 seasons have been the best ever for this fan. Dissapoinment during the playoffs, yes. But compared to the previous 20 plus years (4 playoff runs) of being a fan, they have been wonderful. Still have my season tickets for next season and cannot wait. Not going to buy into the new click bait meme of "Doc" being lazy, he has accomplished a lot in life to have that trait. And when the changes come I will accept and move on, until then...Go Clippers!

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