Rumor : Chris Paul, Spurs Believed To Have Mutual Interest

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Well, as I said a bit ago if he wants a much better shot at a championship this would be the place to go.

And again it's all just speculation/rumor and in the "thinking" stage right now. We'll soon see.

He should go there and I kinda hope he does. But at the same time, Spurs won't beat the Warriors if the team stays together. Hear rumors of Curry returning to Charlotte, but unless that happens there's just too big of a disparity between the top 2 and the rest of the league.

In the end, probably best off to stay put, cash in, and gamble that Carmelo reverts back to superstar status for a year.

I wouldn't be mad. Doc has ruined his prime years. The only reason to stay in LA is for the money.

Clemenza wrote:
I wouldn't be mad. Doc has ruined his prime years. The only reason to stay in LA is for the money.

CP3 threatened to leave if Doc was not coach. I know there is a lesson somewhere in there. lol

It's probably the next best move to cashing in on that $210mil he worked so hard for. I might even respect him more for choosing a championship over $40mil + for a year. That's not easy $ to make back

clipper*joe wrote:
CP3 threatened to leave if Doc was not coach. I know there is a lesson somewhere in there. lol

True.. but I'm sure Paul is just like the rest of us in that we respected Doc The Coach but little did we know he would become the ultimate f*ck up as the GM

clipper*joe wrote:
CP3 threatened to leave if Doc was not coach. I know there is a lesson somewhere in there. lol

Coach fine. Gm and president. Ugh

clipper*joe wrote:
CP3 threatened to leave if Doc was not coach. I know there is a lesson somewhere in there. lol

That was then this is now. Things change, lol

Keatonsays wrote:
It's probably the next best move to cashing in on that $210mil he worked so hard for. I might even respect him more for choosing a championship over $40mil + for a year. That's not easy $ to make back

Lol... the chump change of 40M is only 80 years at 500 k annually. Absolute insanity that they can even consider that as an "extra" for signing in LA to play basketball. How much is enough? Truth is he has more money than any human should ever need or want. If he needs a ring to feed his ego so badly he should just sign for the minimum with the Dubs and play about 15 minutes a game.

First you forgot compound interest. To round it off his net' worth $100 mill now. Over the next 3 years he makes a total 0f $200 mill plus15 mill for endorsements. Split it in half for tax and expenses.. Round ff to 10 mill. We have total lifetime net worth of 120 million clear. he lives another 40 years to 80. He spends $4 mill/ year so at yr 10 he has spent 40 mill. He has had a minimum principal of 120-40 = 80 mill. Compounded at 5% he still has 200 mill. Probably totally wrong but you get the idea

Spending $ 4 mill/ year is easy. Suppose you have a house on the Rivera in France.Taxes and upkeep are expensive. You like to fly so you buy a plane. You like to race cars so you have a custom Porshe. You like to sail so you buy a 50 ft yacht and sail around the South Pacific. You need to maintain it and it ain't cheap. Your alimony and child support. This is not including blowing money gambling or at strip clubs. How many NBA players are broke?

This is how pro athletes either stay rich or go broke.

Check from around 6.25. Some interesting talk of CP to the Spurs.

Clemenza wrote:
True.. but I'm sure Paul is just like the rest of us in that we respected Doc The Coach but little did we know he would become the ultimate f*ck up as the GM
Yea, for sure, hindsight is 20/20, but Doc was considered a top 3-5 coach in the league at the time, and even on here it was almost not allowed by some to criticize any of his moves or decisions. Also the players didn't sign up for him to be GM, just for him to be coach, and even the GM part, even if we agreed or not, at the least we didn't expect him to be horrible at it, or at least have the proper help to do it well.


In terms of the rumors, I think the things people say about the rumors and the reasons why he should go there actually can end up being more convincing to him than what he might have been thinking before.

Like I said before and I'll hold on to, the best scenario for the Clippers is to sign them both, get Melo, go at it one more year and then next off-season they have all these stars to trade. You know there will be teams wanting that. Think of someone like New Orleans, let's say they re-sign Holiday, etc and they do well, but not well enough, they are a team that would be ripe for wanting to make a trade for a player like Paul. A team like Portland would be a team ripe to wanting to make a trade for a player like Griffin, etc, etc.

Dirtydunks wrote:
Lol... the chump change of 40M is only 80 years at 500 k annually. Absolute insanity that they can even consider that as an "extra" for signing in LA to play basketball. How much is enough? Truth is he has more money than any human should ever need or want. If he needs a ring to feed his ego so badly he should just sign for the minimum with the Dubs and play about 15 minutes a game.
Players tend to want rings while also contributing quite well, so obviously there wouldn't be any satisfaction for him in that. I certainly won't fault a player for taking the extra money, it's still just basketball in the end, and you are just taking your market value like the majority of other people would do in their respective jobs, and I also wouldn't fault them for taking less to go to a situation that can give them more career success and recognition or whatever it is.

"I think there is interest there" doesn't sound like a strong rumor. If the reporter had said "I heard that..." then it'd be different. Highly doubt that CP3 to Spurs happens- firstly not sure how San Antonio can have enough cap room without weakening their team significantly, and secondly is Chris Paul willing to take a huge pay cut like that.

Agent0 wrote:
Players tend to want rings while also contributing quite well, so obviously there wouldn't be any satisfaction for him in that. I certainly won't fault a player for taking the extra money, it's still just basketball in the end, and you are just taking your market value like the majority of other people would do in their respective jobs, and I also wouldn't fault them for taking less to go to a situation that can give them more career success and recognition or whatever it is.
Are his chances that much better with Spurs? Stay in sunny So Cal, do your commercials and thank God you are so unbelievably fortunate. I have ZERO pity for his so called legacy. The whole ring thing is vastly overrated.

1969 was the year of Woodstock, the Beatles White Album and Hendrix double album. I didn't cut my hair for a year and some of the time I wasn't high. We had what was called a "Reality Check" Once I thought there was a lion in the bedroom but I had a reality check and found out that the tone arm was stuck on a Blue Cheer record. Bos was down 3-1 and should lose by 30 but all the Celtics fans wear green shirts.and are still screaming. Bos is down by 40 and they are still screaming. Game 7 and people with Clips jerseys refuse to wear red shirts and are texting. WE NEED A REALITY CHECK.

CP is INSANE for not going o the Spurs especially with the tax advantages and arguably San Antonio is a better place to raise a kid than LA. It is worse to serve in heaven than to rule in Hell. At least he will be playing for a functional team a good crowd and a good coach.Except DJ and CP nobody else is worth keeping except for JJ as a Mike Miller or Korver. off the bench. BG would be a bench player on the Cavs and, GSW. I would prefer Crowder at PF than BG. Did you see JR Smith boxing out? That was better than the whole Clipp squad combined. We have NO up and coming players, No draft picks and no cap space.

REALITY CHECK.

For you youngsters compared to REAL MUSIC hip hip is a farting noise. If you smoke some legal non tobacco stuff and you don't shake that ass, you are dead. "Our satisfaction will come in a chain reaction" Flush them all. And white boys can have the funk.

The more I think about it.. there's definitely a very strong pull of the force for CP3 going to San Antonio. They have a tractor beam on him. If he can swallow the millions lost part then he's outta here

Your memory may be failing a bit there Toohip...the White Album came out in 1968 and I remember it well. Smile

Good for CP sucks for the clippers. He thought BG would develop but he never did and actually regressed. Clippers with its dysfunctional ownership going back to sterling really messed up CP's chances by not paying for a GM.

Clemenza wrote:
The more I think about it.. there's definitely a very strong pull of the force for CP3 going to San Antonio. They have a tractor beam on him. If he can swallow the millions lost part then he's outta here

I did too, But how are they gonna make room for him cap-wise? Also I doubt his wife is crazy about uprooting their family to San Antonio. He's not leaving, he'll stay here and play with his friend Melo.

tense2 wrote:
Your memory may be failing a bit there Toohip...the White Album came out in 1968 and I remember it well. Smile

You're right. Remember, sometimes I wasn't high. If you remember 1969 you weren't here.

david wrote:
"I think there is interest there" doesn't sound like a strong rumor. If the reporter had said "I heard that..." then it'd be different. Highly doubt that CP3 to Spurs happens- firstly not sure how San Antonio can have enough cap room without weakening their team significantly, and secondly is Chris Paul willing to take a huge pay cut like that.

The vid I posted above suggests that he doesn't take as much pay cut as we think due to tax and shoe deal.

Agent0 wrote:
Yea, for sure, hindsight is 20/20, but Doc was considered a top 3-5 coach in the league at the time, and even on here it was almost not allowed by some to criticize any of his moves or decisions. Also the players didn't sign up for him to be GM, just for him to be coach, and even the GM part, even if we agreed or not, at the least we didn't expect him to be horrible at it, or at least have the proper help to do it well.


In terms of the rumors, I think the things people say about the rumors and the reasons why he should go there actually can end up being more convincing to him than what he might have been thinking before.

Like I said before and I'll hold on to, the best scenario for the Clippers is to sign them both, get Melo, go at it one more year and then next off-season they have all these stars to trade. You know there will be teams wanting that. Think of someone like New Orleans, let's say they re-sign Holiday, etc and they do well, but not well enough, they are a team that would be ripe for wanting to make a trade for a player like Paul. A team like Portland would be a team ripe to wanting to make a trade for a player like Griffin, etc, etc.

Hindsight is 20/20 but you miss the forest for the trees. My statement is based on 20/20 hindsight. I said that there is a lesson somewhere in Clemenza's statement. In short, there is irony in that CP3 threatened to leave if Doc wasn't brought in to coach the Clippers. So if Cp3's best years have been wasted (according to Clemenza), isn't it ironic that CP3 was willing to uplift his family, make a big change, if he didn't get the person responsible for wasting his prime years? Sure seems that way, amirite? That was the point. Not what Doc was before getting here, what we thought of him on this board. What we could or could not say about Saint Doc. That is all irrelevant to my statement. Basically, CP3 was most responsible for bringing Doc in if he is on record saying he would walk if Doc is not coach. If that is true, and all indication says it's true, he is also partly responsible for giving away a 1st round pic in order to appease him.

Your statement about players not coming here for Doc the GM, but Doc the coach implies that all players came here because Doc was coach...I completely disagree. Doc signed on with the Clippers only if he had control of the team and that came in the form of senior vice president of basketball operations. That automatically demoted Gary Sacks. Guess what he did? Yeah, GM duties.So basically, Doc came in as GM and Coach from the get go.

I'm definitely a clippers fan, but I would like to see cp3 contend for a championship. I just don't be think we can do it under doc as gm. Getting melo or possibly Paul George all sound good but i don't trust doc to pull it off.

clipper*joe wrote:
Hindsight is 20/20 but you miss the forest for the trees. My statement is based on 20/20 hindsight. I said that there is a lesson somewhere in Clemenza's statement. In short, there is irony in that CP3 threatened to leave if Doc wasn't brought in to coach the Clippers. So if Cp3's best years have been wasted (according to Clemenza), isn't it ironic that CP3 was willing to uplift his family, make a big change, if he didn't get the person responsible for wasting his prime years? Sure seems that way, amirite? That was the point. Not what Doc was before getting here, what we thought of him on this board. What we could or could not say about Saint Doc. That is all irrelevant to my statement. Basically, CP3 was most responsible for bringing Doc in if he is on record saying he would walk if Doc is not coach. If that is true, and all indication says it's true, he is also partly responsible for giving away a 1st round pic in order to appease him.

Your statement about players not coming here for Doc the GM, but Doc the coach implies that all players came here because Doc was coach...I completely disagree. Doc signed on with the Clippers only if he had control of the team and that came in the form of senior vice president of basketball operations. That automatically demoted Gary Sacks. Guess what he did? Yeah, GM duties.So basically, Doc came in as GM and Coach from the get go.

I see, well that makes sense. Sucks for them all

toohipcliptoslip wrote:
You're right. Remember, sometimes I wasn't high. If you remember 1969 you weren't here.
CSN, Let it Bleed, Stand Up, Tommy, Everybody Knows this is Nowhere, Santana, Abbey Rd...just a few of the unforgettable albums I remember opening and putting on the turn table for the first time. Talk about being blown away.

Dirtydunks wrote:
CSN, Let it Bleed, Stand Up, Tommy, Everybody Knows this is Nowhere, Santana, Abbey Rd...just a few of the unforgettable albums I remember opening and putting on the turn table for the first time. Talk about being blown away.

Oh and of course Led Zeppelin. Man o man it was a very good year as the song goes.

Our best bet is to trade for Melo to solidify him staying. He's not gonna stay if we stand pat with the exact same team the last few years with no upgrades or closers to help him in crunch time. I say we trade for Melo in a sign and trade deal for Reddick, Rivers and 2021 1st round pick. Use the MId-Level Exception on Thabo Sefolosha. Resign Mbah a Moute on a 2nd-year bird rights deal. and fill the rest of the roster with vets. resign Felton and bass and fill the rest of the roster from there.

CP3/Felton

Thabo/Crawford

Carmelo/Mbah a Moute/Johnson

Griffin/Bass/B. Johnson

Jordan/Stone

I doubt this will happen but if he does want to go, I hope a sign and trade could be worked out because I wouldn't mind taking Murray and Simmons off their hands.

cashdld wrote:
Our best bet is to trade for Melo to solidify him staying. He's not gonna stay if we stand pat with the exact same team the last few years with no upgrades or closers to help him in crunch time. I say we trade for Melo in a sign and trade deal for Reddick, Rivers and 2021 1st round pick. Use the MId-Level Exception on Thabo Sefolosha. Resign Mbah a Moute on a 2nd-year bird rights deal. and fill the rest of the roster with vets. resign Felton and bass and fill the rest of the roster from there.

CP3/Felton

Thabo/Crawford

Carmelo/Mbah a Moute/Johnson

Griffin/Bass/B. Johnson

Jordan/Stone

I think that is too much money in salaries that we are sending out. We'd have to get an extra guy like Lee in that deal

david wrote:
"I think there is interest there" doesn't sound like a strong rumor. If the reporter had said "I heard that..." then it'd be different. Highly doubt that CP3 to Spurs happens- firstly not sure how San Antonio can have enough cap room without weakening their team significantly, and secondly is Chris Paul willing to take a huge pay cut like that.
after taxes he actually makes more with the spurs than with us ... Texas have no taxes

Clemenza wrote:
The more I think about it.. there's definitely a very strong pull of the force for CP3 going to San Antonio. They have a tractor beam on him. If he can swallow the millions lost part then he's outta here
he actually makes like 2 million more if he signs with spurs

If I'm not mistaken CP3 will make 2 million more in San Antonio because of la taxes. so the 40 or 50 million extra you all are talking about is not gonna play much of a factor because Texas has no state income taxes laws

JudahDub wrote:
I doubt this will happen but if he does want to go, I hope a sign and trade could be worked out because I wouldn't mind taking Murray and Simmons off their hands.

Doubt the Spurs would want to give up those two.. but you never know

preese wrote:
If I'm not mistaken CP3 will make 2 million more in San Antonio because of la taxes. so the 40 or 50 million extra you all are talking about is not gonna play much of a factor because Texas has no state income taxes laws

Pro players, in every sport, still have to pay taxes in every state they play in

I think they are taking that into account, not sure, but he would have 41 games a year in SA, so half of his salary is not taxed.

Clemenza wrote:
Doubt the Spurs would want to give up those two.. but you never know
People rarely get anything good from sign and trades. Spurs would have no reason to be trading those guys in a sign and trade unless they got stuck, but it certainly wouldn't be those two either way. They would probably just try and move Gasol and Parker and let Mills go to clear the space for Paul. They might offer Parker and a low pick in a sign and trade since Parker is an expiring one year $15.5M contract, and if the Clippers don't take that they would just offer him to some team needing a PG and veteran presence and get the space.

Dirtydunks wrote:
I think that is too much money in salaries that we are sending out. We'd have to get an extra guy like Lee in that deal
Actually it would be an even salary match up due to Carmelo trade kicker which makes it 29 million we'd have to match up with, assuming Reddick will command 16 million coupled with Austin Rivers 12 million due next season, that would be 28 million, Courtney Lee contract would be too much incoming for that too work.

Does the trade kicker count in the equation?

cashdld wrote:
Actually it would be an even salary match up due to Carmelo trade kicker which makes it 29 million we'd have to match up with, assuming Reddick will command 16 million coupled with Austin Rivers 12 million due next season, that would be 28 million, Courtney Lee contract would be too much incoming for that too work.
I think the Courtney Lee one included Wesley Johnson also going to the Knicks though that still doesn't seem to make enough space, and the hard cap also has to be considered here

A "sure thing" does not exist in the NBA, but when Woj calls us heavy favorites to resign Paul, I'm pretty comfortable he's staying. “Not that I see,” Wojnarowski said of Paul’s chances of ending up with the Spurs. “I don’t know where that came from. I’ve spent a lot of time around the Spurs this spring. They would have to just tear up that entire payroll. It’s almost unlike anything the Spurs would’ve done or would do to even have a chance at him. I mean, they’d have to really gut the roster. And to do that for a 30-plus....

Spurs is definitely not straightforward, they might be willing to sign him to his max, but only for like 3 seasons, then give him a smaller contract later to stay, that's the Spurs way. Or they might say we'll give you 4 years, but at $25 million a year instead, which is about $57 million less than he would make in 4 seasons on a max contract with the Clippers, taxes changes that, but not that much.

So for Paul, is taking less money worth it for a slightly better chance, but still not a favorite chance at the finals or winning? I can see the arguments both ways, and then what other options would he have that give him a better chance than the Clippers? Basically him and Blake's best chance is to have the Clippers moved to the EC so that they have much better match ups on their way to the ECF and will usually be the #1 or #2 seed giving them easier opponents. That's not happening though, so such is life.

Chris is unlikely to leave the Clippers. I have spoken to several sports writers (locally & nationally). They all agree that CP3 isn't going anywhere. Very Happy

david wrote:
Here is a new report saying that CP3 is "overwhelmingly" favorite to stay as a Clipper:

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/adrian-wojnarowski-clippers-not-spurs-133001628.html

Base on this article, if CP will sign with the Spurs. I don't see the Spurs winning a championship because they have to pick a D-League player to complete the roster if they will give the max to him.

cobra wrote:
Base on this article, if CP will sign with the Spurs. I don't see the Spurs winning a championship because they have to pick a D-League player to complete the roster if they will give the max to him.
What this might do is that it makes the Spurs have to do a sign and trade for him if he really wants to go there, which allows the Clippers to at least get some sort of value back. I have no problem with that being the situation

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