https://twitter.com/wojyahoonba/status/610568154809565184
If this means we get rid of Hawes then I say absolutely pull the trigger.
Stephenson has a team option after next season so it's not going to hurt us if he has another bad season unlike Hawes.
Do you guys like this trade?
Love this idea. We obviously are having a tough time signing talent with our limited flexibility and I have never seen a better buy-low opportunity for a young and dynamic former all-star.
Stephenson is a bad egg and I hope we do not sign this inefficient headcase.
J.R. Smith and Draymond Green are "bad eggs" and they're in the finals.
We haven't ever made it to the WCF's, we aren't good enough to be picky about the players attitudes that we want.
We haven't ever made it to the WCF's, we aren't good enough to be picky about the players
attitudes that we want. 
Lance Stephenson is not taking anyone to the finals.
We haven't ever made it to the WCF's, we aren't good enough to be picky about the players
attitudes that we want.
In fact, Draymond Green isn't a bad egg at all. I'd love to have him on this team.
I'm for the trade, as long as we trade Crawford too. Would rather it be Hawes and Crawford instead of Barnes.
He almost did his last two seasons with Indiana, but okay.
Lance stephenson is a better defender and rebounder than hawes and is 6 inches shorter lol...That should say something
Hawes is wack and will never be a good playoff starter we desperately need a small forward who is young and can play both ends make this happen clippers.
We're only losing Barnes and Hawes so I am fine with this trade. The question is do Charlotte really want Stephenson gone that they'll accept our trash?
https://twitter.com/chris_broussard/status/610578072283279360
According to Chris Broussard, yes.
I don't mind trading barnes because we prob gonna sign a starting 3 with the mini mid level and move redick to the bench and move crawford in a later deal for a back up big to replace spencer. This could work out great
I'd love Draymond Green also because he's incredible. That doesn't mean he isn't a goon.
2014-15 Draymond is the PF version of 2013-14 Lance.
Sounds like a good trade to me, it gets rid of Hawes and that awful contract. If Stevenson doesn't work out decline the team option and that's more money next years free agents.
Fingers crossed
Lance can very well start at the 3 the more i think about it and we can just sign a back up 3 to replace barnes and a back big with the mini mid and that will leave redick in the starting lineup. Stevenson rebs really well for his size. If he can bring defense and rebounding anything on the offensive end will be a plus and upgrade over matt and hawes together
I think THIS bad of a 3 point shooting year was an anomaly. I think he can get it to low 30's this year with FAR more good shots coming from CP3/Griffin. I freaking LOVE this trade because it's low ish risk, VERY high reward potentially. If we get Pacers Stephenson who bounces back next to CP3/Griffin and under Doc... this guy is a near all star caliber player and we aren't giving up much. Barnes is a perennial playoff no show and Hawes isn't a good fit. Lance is still young and if he returns to anything near Pacers form his contract will be a bargain in 2 years when cap rises. These are the kind of gambles Doc has failed on that teams like the Rockets have taken chances on.
2014-15 Draymond is the PF version of 2013-14 Lance.
I'd rather stick Draymond at the SF than Lance.
I think this is the obvious off season move for us. He hates it there, they hate him. It's one of the only good players out there which we can trade for with some bit of leverage in the deal. That said, I doubt Doc will be able to pull off a one-sided trade based on his track record but if he can take advantage of anybody its MJ.
hawes/jamal for LS/biyombo seems fair.
This trade would make a lot more sense if it were Crawford being shipped instead of Barnes. Stephenson would be ideal as ball-handling guard off the bench, not undersized starting small forward.
Obviously because Draymond Green is one of the best SF's in the league when playing that position. I'm not comparing Green's and Stephenson's ability. I'm comparing their personalities, which are almost the same.
Green is just as much of a jackass as Stephenson believe it or not.
I think if Barnes is getting then we'll probably start fresh with the small forward position. I wouldn't be surprised if Paul Peirce and Doc have been having conversations
I wouldn't mind adding Crawford or Wilcox if they add Roberts.
I think the only reason the Clips' FO would be 'deliberating' is because they're looking to trade Jamal, too. Can't have that much money and roster-spots tied up in 2-guards... JJ, Jamal, Stephenson, Wilcox - even Rivers is a combo-guard to me.
If we can get a serviceable 3rd big for Jamal, then I'd be jumping at this trade.
They have plenty of guards tho. That Is why it was no issue benching lance when he was playing poorly. They have Henderson, taylor, and they likej hairston too. With jamal that is over kill. They need a back up big. Al jeff always banged up, zeller and vonleah too raw and bismack a free agent. Barnes behind michael kid g makes sense. Lets use crawford in a separate deal to get a good back up big. Use mini on a gerald green type who can replace crawford and actually play some 3 without hurting us
If that's the case, the trade makes a lot more sense.
I am not a fan of Stephenson at all and think he is a head case but if that is all we are giving up it is definitely worth a look. I say pull the trigger and hope Stephenson has a bounce back year.
Maybe we can dump Crawford too for a decent player. I can see MJ going for it we all know he isn't a good evaluator of talent heh.
Start Pierce and have Lance come off the bench with the sixth man role.
We haven't ever made it to the WCF's, we aren't good enough to be picky about the players
attitudes that we want.
Don't care much for Stephenson, but I guess the FO has put themselves in a situation where they have to start making gambles now. For Hawes and Barnes though, I'm fine with it. If you get Stephenson you have to get rid of Crawford also, and I'd prefer Stephenson as a 6th man. Hawes just does not fit what the team runs on defense and isn't good enough on offense to make that up, even when he's playing well, so it is better to find a big man that can defend with this team.
PS Clippers could still sign Pierce for 3.5 mill tax payer MLE. Would be perfect. Could even start Pierce for say 20-25 mpg and use Stephenson as a defensive specialist/ballhandler 6th man.
Maybe we can dump Crawford too for a decent player. I can see MJ going for it we all know he
isn't a good evaluator of talent heh.
He's a headcase but Crawford was supposedly going to ruin our chemistry too and he's been amazing for our locker room. I agree now Crawford should be traded for a backup big maybe who is physical. Then sign Pierce with Mini MLE.
Would love this trade only if we are able to get a first rounder from Charlotte but I doubt that happens.I'm nervous that WE might be giving up a pick.If we can somehow get a 1st rounder and send it to Denver with Crawford for Wilson Chandler than this would be a great offseason move imo.We would need to resign DJ and Austin as well.Than resign Big Baby or Reggie Evans to the min.Sign Peirce to the min if possible.And finally use the tax payers MLE on a back up for DJ.My preference would be Alexis Ajinca but maybe even give Stoudemire a good look.He can still put up points and rebound but his health is always going to be a concern.
PG: CP3,Rivers
SG: Redick,Stevenson,Wilcox
SF: Chandler,Peirce
PF: Blake,Big Baby/Evans
C: DJ,Ajinca/Stoudemire
This is a bit iffy, but I think I'd do this trade as the team would be able to dump Hawe's salary. That would mean though the Clippers are back to square one in terms of finding a back up big (or no starting center if DJ leaves). Stephenson is strong enough to play some small forward, but there is no guarantee that he is going to revert to the player he was in 2013-14 with the Pacers.
What are the chances Pierce takes the min?
Imagine being able to use our mMLE on Lavoy Allen or Brandon Bass.
Could really turn this roster around.
Crawford has never been a cancer off the court. Just a black hole who plays no D on the court and he is getting old too which makes things worse.
That scenario would be nice. Having Pierce as a starter and Lance as a 6th man. Getting a defensive backup big would also be very nice.
Brandon Bass is getting 7+ mill a year man. Although I'd LOVE him on the team as you would too. Doubt Pierce takes minimum.. he's very proud. BUT if he did and we used MLE on someone else.. we'd be in amazing shape.
I am not sure if this is possible, but I hope it happen. If it does, I would be so happy.
Yes on the trade. Hope Hornet cut Barnes contract so that they will only owe him 1 mil and use the rest to sing other people. Then the Clippers wait for the wavier to clear and resign Barnes to come off the bench. We still need his toughness and defense for the second unit.
Is this possible?
He had a bad reputation as a chemistry ruining type, although as you said it was more on court based. Still he was deemed a high risk option vs Ray Allen who was a more sure bet. He ended up being a nice contributor for the last 3 years. My only gripe with Crawford is his complete disappearing acts every year in the playoffs, which a title hopefully CANNOT have from their 6th man.
Rick Bonnell @rick_bonnell 2m2 minutes ago Charlotte, NC
From what I'm told by multiple sources, this is now Doc Rivers' call. @hornets ready to move forward on this trade.
From what I'm told by multiple sources, this is now Doc Rivers' call. @hornets ready to
move forward on this trade.
Nice, now Doc can gauge the teams interest in playing with Lance before he makes a move.
https://twitter.com/alexkennedynba/status/608157163824025601
If Stephenson can get down to his Indiana weight he will already be better than last year. Hopefully he spends the summer working with CP and BG to get some chemistry.
The best thing that comes with Stephenson is his contract has a team option for 2016-17
As long as this deal is good with Pierce, gotta pull the trigger. Best part is Jamal is not involved -- He still has a semblance of value and can be traded later.
Yep, worst case scenario, he's as bad as Hawes and we have $6mil extra in cap space that we wouldn't have with Hawes.
Best case scenario, he returns to Pacers Stephenson and becomes the lockdown defender we've always wanted and the $9mil contract becomes a steal.
Clipper Darrell please tell Doc to pull the trigger i know you have his number text him please we all want this he can make Lance a great player its what he does he's what we're missing!
Great trade!! Pull the trigger.
Even is lance flops, the clippers still clear up an additional $6M in cap space for next summer when the cap spikes and they'll actually be a player in free agency. Big difference in having $10M in cap space vs $16M+. Offering free agents 4 years $70M, is a hell of a lot more attractive than 4 years $44M. We could Actually have 4 star players!!
Where's Blair these days? He's a serviceable big man who can rebound
A source tells ESPN a deal is close but not definite
http://hoopshype.com/team/los-angeles-clippers/
I've got mixed emotions about this one, article says final decision will be made by Doc.
#InDocwetrust
Yep he is definitely going to go all out for that $.
