Rumor: Clippers Interested In Tony Wroten

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yeah but we didn't get anything in return for Jared Cunningham.

CapsNClips wrote:

Wroten is exactly what our bench needs.

A high volume, low efficiency scorer with a questionable defensive skills? Yeah we don't have anyone like that. Although if we traded Crawford in another deal, he might be more interesting.

MunoValente wrote:
A high volume, low efficiency scorer with a questionable defensive skills? Yeah we don't have anyone like that. Although if we traded Crawford in another deal, he might be more interesting.

Dude don't mention tony and Crawford in the same sentence. Tony can't even light a candle to the caliber of play of Crawford.

Tony wroten is Jared Cunningham with a couple inches and a lot more playing time.

Stupid move if we get him.

Lol, Wroten would be an awesome addition to our team.

ClipperPostman wrote:
Dude don't mention tony and Crawford in the same sentence. Tony can't even light a candle to the caliber of play of Crawford.

No he can't, but he's completely useless on a team with Crawford. On team that switches Crawford out for Jeff Green and Wilson Chandler, Wroten would have a little more value, because he won't be blocked by a player that does that exact same thing about 100 times better.

Pretty sure Wroten would play PG so he would play beside Crawford. Their skill sets also don't overlap at all. Both are quick and that's about where the comparison ends.

Wroten shoots 3s, but is awful at them and then everything else is layups (seriously, he's shot less than 10 non-layups/3ps this season I think, amazing for a 17ppg scorer).

Crawford shoots 3s well and the rest of the time mostly takes pullups. He is not getting to the basket as much as he used to.

The question would be what can the Clippers turn Farmar into? Probably nothing great, but he does have a friendly contract that comes off the books after this year.

So, I could see a move from Wroten (depending on what we send for him, hopefully just Bullock and/or Wilcox) then a separate move with Farmar to bring in another SF.

Repped (+1)

Love the idea of Farmar on Philadelphia

Nice- Tony Wroten would be an excellent addition to the team to shore up the bench. He is a big guard, likes to penetrate, so should compliment Jamal Crawford well.

Not sure what we have that Philly would want for Wroten. He's only 21 and has tremendous upside appeal and is good enough to help us now as a backup PG and SG. Perhaps it's the first step in moving Crawford for a SF.

What's hard to figure is why Philly would want to move him and what we would have to offer that has value to them. Basically, our entire bench, with the exception of Crawford and Hawes, are guys that can be picked up off the waiver wire.

SamMays wrote:
Not sure what we have that Philly would want for Wroten. He's only 21 and has tremendous upside appeal and is good enough to help us now as a backup PG and SG. Perhaps it's the first step in moving Crawford for a SF.

What's hard to figure is why Philly would want to move him and what we would have to offer that has value to them. Basically, our entire bench, with the exception of Crawford and Hawes, are guys that can be picked up off the waiver wire.

Seeing Philly boards, they seem to want Bullock. Feeling is that Philly is awash in athletic prospects who can't shoot and Bullock would add a shooting dimension they don't have. I'm good with that if we get another SF somewhere else.

That said, Philly fans seem to like Wroten too.

Some sick highlights from the JC pro am:

C'mon Philly... we know you want that first pick really badly. What better tank-commander than Jordan Farmar?

Would love to get Wroten, he is legit. And it would be a sign of future, bigger, moves. Wroten can work from the 2 if need be and need be would come if Redick or Jamal are flipped for a SF.

MunoValente wrote:
A high volume, low efficiency scorer with a questionable defensive skills? Yeah we don't have anyone like that. Although if we traded Crawford in another deal, he might be more interesting.
OF course I would hate to see Jamal leave and I think we would be downgrading ourselves as a team doing this,but the scary thing is CBS sports was told today that Jamal is not on the table at all. Why that scares me is the Dodgers said the same thing about 3 guys and the next day they were all gone.

We need to make steps to becoming a longer/bigger team and Tony would be a great starting point.

That would solve our backup PG problems for the foreseeable future and if Jamal leaves in the offseason we have a new 6th man.

cleepers wrote:
Rumor is that we're targeting Tony Wroten from the 'sixers, too. https://twitter.com/DanWoikeSports/status/552916137860550656 If it ends up being a straight swap for Farmar, that is a great f*cking deal! Wroten is paid less and is much more productive. He's also only 21 with a lot of room to grow behind CP3. Solid move for the future.
Breakdown on Wroten: The Bad; 1.Below average FG% for his position (42%) 2.Bad 3Pt shooter (28% and takes much more 3PT FGA's then he should) 3.Below average FT shooter (67%) 4.T.O machine (6.4 PER48 to 8.4 AST PER48) The Good: 1.+50% of his FGA's are at the rim. Ranked 6th in the league in Drives per....

Not too high on him, though it'll definitely be a defensive / athleticism upgrade compared to Farmar.

Has great offensive potential, having another shot creator + willing distributor on the team is always a plus.

However, similar to MCW, his stats are inflated playing for 76ers. Also below average shooter while turning over the ball at a horrendous rate.

Wroten is a bit inconsistent, but he has flashes where he impresses me. I am very interested to see where this goes...

CapsNClips wrote:
We need to make steps to becoming a longer/bigger team and Tony would be a great starting point.

That would solve our backup PG problems for the foreseeable future and if Jamal leaves in the offseason we have a new 6th man.

Why is Jamal leaving? Have I missed anything..? Last I checked he was one of the best players on the team - at times THE best player.

Not sure how i feel about Wroten, He is kinda what i been hoping we would get an athletic wing that can slash but was hoping for someone that can play S/G or S/F. He is a PG/SG. I don't know anything about him. Wish we could have Kept Cunningham but i understand the business side pretty much had to be done. 1 Thing about Wroten is he can be an asset whi.ch i believe we need to start collecting for the future

LAC_12 wrote:
Why is Jamal leaving? Have I missed anything..? Last I checked he was one of the best players on the team - at times THE best player.

Yeah, it was a two letter word that starts with "I" and ends with "f"

Just read farmar might not play tonight after pumping his knee last game.

Hopefully he gets shipped out tomorrow for worton.

Love him or hate him - he can't be worse.

after looking at some video of Wroten man him and Jcraw could be a good match in a bench unit especially if he plays defense. A dynamite Duo of their own if Doc could control their flashy play.

Wroten definitely adds length and height, which the Clippers sorely need. Terrible three point shooter, but considering that the team has plenty of that already, it could be good to have someone who slashes to open things up for the bench offense.

76ers would probably take anything that makes their team worse for him. CDR/Farmar are the ones immediately coming to mind.

EDIT: Just checked the trade machine, and you could actually not only trade Farmar for Wroten straight up, but cut salary in the process.

A bag of peanuts would be an upgrade from Farmar the toad!

If its a Farmar swap its a good deal. If we actually have to give something of value.... Then this sucks for us.

I'd be much more interested if he was in a winning team. Some players in tanking teams develop bad habits, and acceptance towards losing mentality.

Tony tonight against the Bucks, 4-19, 0-7 from 3PT land. But at least he has some height and length Smile...Oh me oh my.

tense2 wrote:
Tony tonight against the Bucks, 4-19, 0-7 from 3PT land. But at least he has some height and length Smile...Oh me oh my.

Maybe he's tanking also so the 6ers will get scared and dump him quick, before he gets any worse! haha

I'd do Farmar and Bullock for Wroten. Wroten can get to the rack.

However, no way Crawford for Wroten. Wroten is one of the worst, if not the worst, shooting guard in the league. His FTs are "DJ like".

Wroten and JC would work well together.

One of the things I started to think of as I pondered the interest in Wroten is. "I wonder what Cunningham's numbers would look like if he was on a tanking team that just gave him minutes and freedom".

It's hard to gauge how useful Wroten is on a good team because he's playing on the third fastest team in the league, putting up impressive surface stats, but surface means nothing with awful shooting, high turnovers and very high usage combined with very low efficiency. So how is his discipline, his commitment to defense on a nightly basis? Can he reign in his possession usage. He's averaging 4 TPG in 30 mins (to 5 assists, awful), 4.7 turnovers every 36 minutes, and his previous two seasons in was at 4.1 turnovers every 36 minutes, very high rate.

He's a mediocre to poor shooter from everywhere, he gets to the rim and line, but is not a great finisher at the rim or anything, but due to how often he gets there, it is okay. So where is the value for the Cłippers is our next question.

1) He gets to the rim and then line like

2) He's 21 years old

3) Goal will be to settle him down a little, or at least pair some efficiency with his wildness

4) If he can do two things with the bench: 1) push the pace and 2) defend his heart out, you can possibly live with the mistakes as long as he isn't using an excessive amount of possessions. It all depends on how well he can do those other things though, but the size at 6'6 with ability to be a ball handler (sort of) is nice.

The question though is couldn't Cunningham technically have done that? Cunningham is a very similar player in terms of skills except probably a better shooter. Picked in the same range too, but he is older. Also while not the same slasher, a guy like Jordan Crawford is probably thinking "what about me", but it's all about that age.

It's unlikely we'll get Wroten. Philly wants a 1st rounder only. They don't want our players that's including wilcox & bullock. Clips will have to do something amazing to get him.

Agent0 wrote:

He's a mediocre to poor shooter from everywhere, he gets to the rim and line, but is not a great finisher at the rim or anything, but due to how often he gets there, it is okay. So where is the value for the Cłippers is our next question.

1) He gets to the rim and then line like

2) He's 21 years old

3) Goal will be to settle him down a little, or at least pair some efficiency with his wildness

4) If he can do two things with the bench: 1) push the pace and 2) defend his heart out, you can possibly live with the mistakes as long as he isn't using an excessive amount of possessions. It all depends on how well he can do those other things though, but the size at 6'6 with ability to be a ball handler (sort of) is nice.

The question though is couldn't Cunningham technically have done that? Cunningham is a very similar player in terms of skills except probably a better shooter. Picked in the same range too, but he is older. Also while not the same slasher, a guy like Jordan Crawford is probably thinking "what about me", but it's all about that age.

You kinda repeated what I said in my post above. What you forgot to mention is what can Tony's defense do to help in one of the Clippers biggest NEEDS and that is...not much.

realbull17 wrote:
It's unlikely we'll get Wroten. Philly wants a 1st rounder only. They don't want our players that's including wilcox & bullock. Clips will have to do something amazing to get him.

He's not worth a 1st round draft pick. We don't need and shouldn't do something amazing to get him. Again he's not worth that much.

Clippers personnel & scouts was at the 76ers/bucks game. Checking things out.

tense2 wrote:
You kinda repeated what I said in my post above. What you forgot to mention is what can Tony's defense do to help in one of the Clippers biggest NEEDS and that is...not much.
Is his defense improvable in the right situation? He might be a guy that can defend better in a different system. Use him as a full court defender to pressure the ball and try and disrupt, and he can guard SG and PG.

It's a little hard to truly gauge players with Philly too as guys are being tossed into roles they would never play on a mediocre or good team.

realbull17 wrote:
Clippers personnel & scouts was at the 76ers/bucks game. Checking things out.

We actually have scouts now? That's amazing. I hope it isn't the same scouts that scouted Farmar and Hawes

Agent0 wrote:
Is his defense improvable in the right situation? He might be a guy that can defend better in a different system. Use him as a full court defender to pressure the ball and try and disrupt, and he can guard SG and PG.

It's a little hard to truly gauge players with Philly too as guys are being tossed into roles they would never play on a mediocre or good team.

I rather go after a player who CAN defend above average then one who Might be able to play average defense. That's what we need.

if he is better than Farmjunk I'd take him

If Cunningham does a Dudley in Philly and rocks the joint, I will be totally ANNOYED!

BaadMaster wrote:
If Cunningham does a Dudley in Philly and rocks the joint, I will be totally ANNOYED!

They waived him already.

I guess Austin is better than Wroten Sad

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