Why is the Front Office Acting So Thirsty for Kawhi?

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Clemenza
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First of all, yes I would love and welcome Kawhi on the team.. who wouldn't. But good lord what are we doing in this over the top recruitment for him to join us next season? We have officials at all the Raptors games. Woj reports on our pursuit of him every other day. Ballmer going apesh*t at who he wants. God forbid a Clipper color commentator dare say anything deemed negative about Kawhi. etc etc etc.

Yes we of course the team needs to sell itself and put itself in a good position to get quality players and free agents but this is getting cringe worthy imo. Lets get Kawhi and maybe KD but at the same time lets be a respectable proud franchise with dignity while doing so. "Build it and they will come" - no need for all the theatrics. I wouldn't be shocked to hear "tampering" by us later down the line at the rate we're headed.


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We know kawhi wants to come la. We have to show him that we want him and we need to keep consistently reminding him until the day he signs the papers. He doesn’t need to ring chase. He wants to be the man and beat LeBron again. The more they put it out there that he’s coming here the harder it will be for him to not come. Like jerry said there are only a handful of superstars in the nba. Kawhi is one of them and he wants to come here. We have to make it happen.


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jtwinnaz wrote:
We know kawhi wants to come la. We have to show him that we want him and we need to keep consistently reminding him until the day he signs the papers. He doesn’t need to ring chase. He wants to be the man and beat LeBron again. The more they put it out there that he’s coming here the harder it will be for him to not come. Like jerry said there are only a handful of superstars in the nba. Kawhi is one of them and he wants to come here. We have to make it happen.

I hear you but its already in motion. No need for the extra. Just my opinion.


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Clemenza wrote:
First of all, yes I would love and welcome Kawhi on the team.. who wouldn't. But good lord what are we doing in this over the top recruitment for him to join us next season? We have officials at all the Raptors games. Woj reports on our pursuit of him every other day. Ballmer going apesh*t at who he wants. God forbid a Clipper color commentator dare say anything deemed negative about Kawhi. etc etc etc.

Yes we of course the team needs to sell itself and put itself in a good position to get quality players and free agents but this is getting cringe worthy imo. Lets get Kawhi and maybe KD but at the same time lets be a respectable proud franchise with dignity while doing so. "Build it and they will come" - no need for all the theatrics. I wouldn't be shocked to hear "tampering" by us later down the line at the rate we're headed.

Weak post when you know the obvious answer


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FO wants to show that Kawhi is our top priority. The more buzz they create around the idea of Kawhi to the Clippers, the more natural the move is, especially with Toronto already being a Great situation.

It’s possible Toronto doesn’t show Kawhi as much attention because they don’t mind not maxing him out when they can develop Siakam and Anunoby for cheap and still be competitive. The Clippers showing absolute dedication to bringing in Kawhi could be the difference between him signing here or elsewhere.


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The only reason they're doing that is because they believe it'll appeal to him. They probably interviewed a lot of people who know and understand him, so they have intel to work off of.


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Well, because they are thirsty for him. Even great prospects are not sure things, but getting a 28 year old (next year) two way superstar and signing him from age 28-31 which will be some of his best years, that's something that does not come around often. Players like Kawhi at his age don't just switch to new teams as often as we might think. So yea, I totally get their thirstiness.


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CLIPSET wrote:
Weak post when you know the obvious answer

Agreed


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Remember when Paul George for sure wanted to go to the lakers and it was a sure thing and they took their foot off the gas, stopped pressuring and pushing, and then all of a sudden he stayed in OKC? Learn from other people’s mistakes


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Remember when Paul George for sure wanted to go to the lakers and it was a sure thing and they took their foot off the gas, stopped pressuring and pushing, and then all of a sudden he stayed in OKC? Learn from other people’s mistakes

Not really a good example cause no star wants to play with Bron and become simply a spot up shooter in the 'Bron Ball' system. Plus Bron gets all the credit when the team wins but the second star takes all the heat when the team looses, ala "The Kevin Love Treatment". Of course PG was staying in OKC. He's not built to be Bron's whipping boy


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Remember when Paul George for sure wanted to go to the lakers and it was a sure thing and they took their foot off the gas, stopped pressuring and pushing, and then all of a sudden he stayed in OKC? Learn from other people’s mistakes

Not really a good example cause no star wants to play with Bron and become simply a spot up shooter in the 'Bron Ball' system. Plus Bron gets all the credit when the team wins but the second star takes all the heat when the team looses, ala "The Kevin Love Treatment". Of course PG was staying in OKC. He's not built to be Bron's whipping boy.

I definitely get the recruitment process I'm just wondering the limits.


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Watch the plan be to get Kwahi, Durant and Anthony Davis. Gas up Harris and make him a Allstar. Sign Durant and Leonard, Extend Harris. Flip him, Robinson and a 1st rounder for Davis. Big 3 dynasty.


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Upping an older thread... This sh*t is getting embarrassing if you ask me. Shouldn't we be acting like we've been there before? Also concentrating on one guy makes it awkward if he doesn't sign with us and then we're trying to pitch to Plan B & C players who know they weren't our first choice.


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Clemenza wrote:
Upping an older thread... This sh*t is getting embarrassing if you ask me. Shouldn't we be acting like we've been there before? Also concentrating on one guy makes it awkward if he doesn't sign with us and then we're trying to pitch to Plan B & C players who know they weren't our first choice.

I can see why people on here get frustrated by our front office. Outside of the pursuit of Kawhi they don’t let any rumors out of what they’re interested in or what trades are in the works. So it’s easy to say “they’re only concentrating on one guy” when they probably have a very comprehensive list of guys they’re going to pitch and a plan B and plan C etc. While it is less interesting for us as fans wanting to hear rumors and get inside info, it’s better that the team is able to actually get things done without all the media attention swaying the deal. Tobias Harris deal and Blake and CP3 deals before that as examples where they got great returns on players with little to no whispers about anything happening.


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OldGuy wrote:
Remember when Paul George for sure wanted to go to the lakers and it was a sure thing and they took their foot off the gas, stopped pressuring and pushing, and then all of a sudden he stayed in OKC? Learn from other people’s mistakes

Exactly! I was thinking the same thing when I read the OP. Was scrolling down to see if anyone came up with that answer. Repped.

Paul made it known where he wanted to go but Lakers didn't make the trade. They thought they could get him outright in the off-season and cooled off in the process. During that time, Westbrook was all up in his ear and the Lakers faded. Not us. Lets hope that pays off.


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Clemenza wrote:
Upping an older thread... This sh*t is getting embarrassing if you ask me. Shouldn't we be acting like we've been there before? Also concentrating on one guy makes it awkward if he doesn't sign with us and then we're trying to pitch to Plan B & C players who know they weren't our first choice.

If we don't land Kawhi, there should be no plan B to Z. We're not hurting enough to be in a position to get a player we might overpay. That is where teams go wrong. Just because we have the cap space, doesn't mean we need to go out and use it up for the sake keeping up with the Jones'. There is only one player out there that is worth the full max. That is Kawhi. The rest of the other FA's are either tier B or injured enough to question the rest of their career. What is plan B? KD? Stay away from him. Elton Brand was 27 when he ruptured his achilles.and was never the same. His mid-range game started to fail in Philly. His calf shrunk as a result of that injury. KD can suffer the same fate. Butler is a headcase that can disrupt the new culture of the team. There is no the plan...At least I hope so.


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Most of the Clipper's moves, at least these past couple seasons, have gone undetected. I really would not sweat what the FO is doing at this time. I'm sure they have a Plan A through Plan Z100. I do not believe the clippers FO, which has become very competent, has their eggs in one basket.


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I also feel the front office other plans if the primary plan doesn’t go as planned. They’ve made many changes for the past 2 years that helped the franchise. So all of a sudden, they feel trapped? People are just too focused on the outside noise like the media and fans. You know whose not fazed by that? Our front office. Believe in them.


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There will be moves made no matter what Kawhi does. We need to re-up some of our own players. Maybe add a piece or two but as far as a max contract goes, it should be Kawhi or bust. Chances are that Leonard will take a small contract to stay an extra year in Toronto so we would need the cap if we still wanted to go after him.


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clipper*joe wrote:
There will be moves made no matter what Kawhi does. We need to re-up some of our own players. Maybe add a piece or two but as far as a max contract goes, it should be Kawhi or bust. Chances are that Leonard will take a small contract to stay an extra year in Toronto so we would need the cap if we still wanted to go after him.

Agreed. Which is why it would be important for us fans not to panic. Some people in Clipsnation are freaking out. I’m willing to wait a year if Kawhi does a 1+1. As long as the front office does not spend money in a stupid fashion, we should see what they come up with.

I doubt the Raptors are freaking out. They seem more chill than anything. They got their championship. If Kawhi leaves, they would just shrugged their shoulders and say, well that was fun while it lasted; let’s make this interesting. Masai Ujiri is one of the best in the business.


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Griffinforpresident wrote:
Agreed. Which is why it would be important for us fans not to panic. Some people in Clipsnation are freaking out. I’m willing to wait a year if Kawhi does a 1+1. As long as the front office does not spend money in a stupid fashion, we should see what they come up with.

I doubt the Raptors are freaking out. They seem more chill than anything. They got their championship. If Kawhi leaves, they would just shrugged their shoulders and say, well that was fun while it lasted; let’s make this interesting. Masai Ujiri is one of the best in the business.


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Griffinforpresident wrote:
Agreed. Which is why it would be important for us fans not to panic. Some people in Clipsnation are freaking out. I’m willing to wait a year if Kawhi does a 1+1. As long as the front office does not spend money in a stupid fashion, we should see what they come up with.

I doubt the Raptors are freaking out. They seem more chill than anything. They got their championship. If Kawhi leaves, they would just shrugged their shoulders and say, well that was fun while it lasted; let’s make this interesting. Masai Ujiri is one of the best in the business.

I don't see any Clipper fans freaking out tbh. I believe most of us feel he's going to resign with Toronto and I doubt most of us would be upset about it either. Personally I'm just exhausted from this whole ordeal and wish he'd make his decision already. The "Ballmer is paying Woj and anyone that makes a positive tweet about us" conspiracies are now annoying asf. And I know the front office isn't going to blow money just for the hell of it if we don't get Kawhi.. and if we don't get him now he could be "Paul Pierce" status/over the hill after his next deal is up. We should be a different team 1-2 years from now not to mention other new stars will emerge in a couple of years from now. If we still need him two years from now then a lot of things will have gone wrong for us., namely players not developing nor taking the next step


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KL or not, we need a SF. Three guard sets are often not a good idea.


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To be clear, if Kawhi goes to Lakers, I will freak out.


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As long as it’s not my money being spend on billboards, etc for Kawhi I don’t care lol. The team is just making an effort to make us instant championship contenders. However if he doesn’t sign our future is still bright.


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He’s a generational talent, in my opinion the best and most complete player in the league. It’s not the end of the world if he signs somewhere else, but it is a whole new nba world if we do sign him.

We can be the spoiler team that grinds and makes it farther than expected, but with the addition of Kawhi it becomes contender status.


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Rich Paul delivered LeBron and AD to the Lakers. Pelinka is no genius. It would be f***ed if the Lakers got Kawhi after they have been a dumpster fire for some years. I mean they have been the epitome of incompetent.


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Mistwell3 wrote:
To be clear, if Kawhi goes to Lakers, I will freak out.

He just proved himself the best player in the league. Coming to be Lebron’s lap dog isn’t a great pitch.


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toohipcliptoslip wrote:
KL or not, we need a SF. Three guard sets are often not a good idea.

We've needed a SF for like 10 years now


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sz123456 wrote:
He just proved himself the best player in the league. Coming to be Lebron’s lap dog isn’t a great pitch.

I am not in the mind of Kawhi. I am saying IF he chose that, I would freak.

Let's not pretend it's impossible he decides on the Lakers.


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toohipcliptoslip wrote:
KL or not, we need a SF. Three guard sets are often not a good idea.

Agree with that. The 3 guard sets worked ok in the regular season but just can't get it done in the offseason. If anything we need 3 forward sets


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Going from three guard sets to one of

Shai 6’6”

JBuckets 6’7”

Kawhi 6’8”

Would be amazing and killer on defense. Shamet and Temple are both tall guards I believe, so everyone but Lou.


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I honestly don’t see how Kawhi would choose any other team over the Clippers. Yes he won with the Raptors and should stay with team to defend title , but signing a max means committing to that team for a few years. A lot of Toronto’s team is made up of players that will not be there 2-3 years from now. Which mean they can be good next year , but after that the team has nothing set. Unlike the Clippers who have such a great young core and future with SGA, Trezz, Shamet, JRob, and Zu if kept. We’re step to be good for the next 2-4 years if healthy. Yes Lakers look good , but ball won’t be in his hands and will be second to LeBron.


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I will just stop watching basketball if he goes to the lakers. I'm being 100% serious at this point.


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DJisMVP wrote:
I will just stop watching basketball if he goes to the lakers. I'm being 100% serious at this point.

I would too. That would just be so stupid and unfair. NBA free agency is such a joke. Fake news circulating. Fans getting all excited over a new breadcrumb released every 24 hours. Its stupid now but whatever they make their money


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This is what I'm talking about.. All this recruiting and dyck-riding of one player almost to the point of obsession and now look who's jumped into the picture on the eve of free agency without doing any work whatsoever. smh


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I was thinking the same thing but I'd still watch every Clippers game aside from the Lakers match-ups. I still love our guys so I will only support our guys on games where the Lakers don't play them. The puncher's chance we got left is that Kawhi is really cut from another cloth but even that seems unlikely. We. Shall. See.


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So do we believe he is not going to meet with them or he is simply stating that so he doesn't get fined.


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In another post I said (and it's a fantasy) a team as a general rule should have 2 max super star players. Players running the team sucks but what can we do? aka LeBron A player's destination should be dictated by teams, not players. Thanks Melo. I believe in Santa Claus


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Mistwell3 wrote:
I am not in the mind of Kawhi. I am saying IF he chose that, I would freak.

Let's not pretend it's impossible he decides on the Lakers.

I literally think it’s impossible. I’d be upset if Kawhi retired next week, or decided to join the Detroit Red Wings, it’s just not happening. It’s us or Toronto.


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https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/re ... ar-AADC2t5


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toohipcliptoslip wrote:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/reports-kevin-durant-talki ng-to-kawhi-leonard-about-teaming-up-on-clippers-knicks/ar-AADC2t5

Let it be with the clippers


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definitely think it's possible he goes to the Lakers and that's the only scenario that would suck not just for us but for the whole league. It's a tempting proposal to him, they'd be far and away the favorites to win the chip this season and probably a couple more. Bron is going to do everything he can to stroke his ego, he's going to say "this is your team, I'm here to help in my last few years before retirement". The truth is Bron is not a ball hog at all, guys don't want to share the spotlight but on the court he's a team player especially when he has high quality teammates. So some of what he will say will ring true to KL. The real concern for KL should be the horrific lack of depth they would have and inability to remedy that any time soon. They'd have Kuzma (who sucked last year) and maybe a JJ Redick level guy for the room exception. And then they'd have 10 vet's minimum guys. at least 3 or 4 of those vet's minimum guys will be rotation players. That's a big problem in a long season. They'd have the best top 3 in the league but they'd also have thee absolute worst bottom 12. Even if Bron, AD, and KL all stay healthy the whole season...Big IF....Imagine what Lou/Trezz will do to a G League 2nd team. They're going to get torched any time they don't have 2 of the 3 on the court. Any extended injury to Bron, AD, or KL during the season and they will tank. There is zero room for error on that front and with those 3 it'll be about a miracle if they....


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We will see just how important another trophy is to him and his self worth. When wanting to compete with his all, a gimme doesn’t seem like his style.


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https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2 ... 4ede091999

Is KD worth the gamble? TheDude How have you been? As far as Bron to KL, The Check's in the mail, I'll respect you in the morning and I won't c--- in your ----h.


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Clemenza wrote:
Upping an older thread... This sh*t is getting embarrassing if you ask me. Shouldn't we be acting like we've been there before? Also concentrating on one guy makes it awkward if he doesn't sign with us and then we're trying to pitch to Plan B & C players who know they weren't our first choice.

You did watch the finals right and saw what Kawhi did for the Raptors? I agree with doc, he is the closest thing we have seen to Jordan in a while. Kobe was a great player but he really didn’t make his teammates better and seemed like an ok locker room personality. Kawhi on the other hand really does help the team and is an even better defender


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Kobe was almost as good a defender as KL IF HE WANTED TO BE


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