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Clippersfan86
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Justin Russo: "One last note here about the defensive stuff from Gilgeous-Alexander: according to Second Spectrum, the rookie has held opponents to 57-for-171 (33.3%) shooting through the first 12 games. And he's only given up 148 points to direct matchups, per Second Spectrum. So, there ya go."

We got a star boys and girls!


A7XDreamTheaterClipps
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Please bring Klay here. Klay and SGA would be an absolute nightmare for the league.


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I want Klay more than Leonard however he Steph and KD will stay together. Tobias is in the same ballpark as Leonard so forget Leonard, next, upgrade the center. Maybe if SGA keeps growing he can be a point center.


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toohipcliptoslip wrote:
I want Klay more than Leonard however he Steph and KD will stay together. Tobias is in the same ballpark as Leonard so forget Leonard, next, upgrade the center. Maybe if SGA keeps growing he can be a point center.

I like Klay and him and also are would be great but there is no comparison to Kawhi and Tobias. Kawhi is a top 5 defender in the league and top 10 offensive player a great passer and a closer. Tobias isn’t even close in any of those categories. Now if we miss out on Kawhi keeping Tobias would be awesome especially to have him next to another shooter like Klay.


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Meant to add, so stoked we have SGA and awesome to see his defense is having such an impact and it should only grow. His offense seems to be growing right before our eyes!


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This is a great write-up on Shai:

https://www.goldenstateofmind.com/2018/ ... -alexander


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I said it in one of the game threads, SGA looks like a young kawhi. They are about the same size and wingspan and every time the ball is close to them they are the one that gobbles it up. High iq and know how to use their length to bother opponents. Also, both not known for their shooting coming out of college but can hit big shots.


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Staples need to start selling this guy's jersey. Clippers marketing need to market him. He gets no hype at all. At worst he's top 5 rookies. At best he could be in the mix for ROY between Doncic and Young if cllippers make the playoff he'll have a strong case too


clipperboy24
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Mistwell3 wrote:
This is a great write-up on Shai:

https://www.goldenstateofmind.com/2018/ ... -alexander

Great read thanks for posting.


Clippersfan86
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Mistwell3 wrote:
This is a great write-up on Shai:

https://www.goldenstateofmind.com/2018/ ... -alexander

Great find. Agree with this and Livingston that his closest comparison may actually be Sam Cassell. Cassell+great D.


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clipperboy24 wrote:
I like Klay and him and also are would be great but there is no comparison to Kawhi and Tobias. Kawhi is a top 5 defender in the league and top 10 offensive player a great passer and a closer. Tobias isn’t even close in any of those categories. Now if we miss out on Kawhi keeping Tobias would be awesome especially to have him next to another shooter like Klay.

SGA You ain't seen nuttin yet. Tobias is in the same house as Leonard but not in the same room. Can we make up in salary for him vs Leonard to pay for other good players. Tobias is a quite good SF.


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I am not saying he does not have the potential, but slow down people. I am also not saying he is not playing well... he's definitely balling. At the level I expected him to. He is more grounded playing alongside the real team (vs the summer league.)

But the best part is... this is just the beginning.


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Also off topic, but... Steph, KD and Klay will not stick together. And I think it would be more lethal with Klay in LAL. But definitely hoping that doesn't happen. I'd love to grab him, he is my least hated Warrior.

Also he is GROSSLY underappreciated and is GROSSLY underrated.

I drool at that kind of talent. Quiet and deadly.


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A7XDreamTheaterClipps wrote:
Please bring Klay here. Klay and SGA would be an absolute nightmare for the league.

Klay's pop is heavy in his life. He won't allow him to play for the Clippers. I think we're in play for Durant.

-as for the topic.. SGA is going to be one of the best two way players in a couple of years. He doesn't even have any strength yet. Wait until he hits the weights over the summer.


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jarca wrote:
Staples need to start selling this guy's jersey. Clippers marketing need to market him. He gets no hype at all. At worst he's top 5 rookies. At best he could be in the mix for ROY between Doncic and Young if cllippers make the playoff he'll have a strong case too

Its definitely coming. He had to become a starter first and foremost. It took around all star break for Donovan Mitchell to get the keys to the team and that media push. It'll come a little sooner for SGA if he keeps improving like he has.


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Clemenza wrote:
Klay's pop is heavy in his life. He won't allow him to play for the Clippers. I think we're in play for Durant.

-as for the topic.. SGA is going to be one of the best two way players in a couple of years. He doesn't even have any strength yet. Wait until he hits the weights over the summer.

Michael Thompson is a staunch Lakers slurred and notorious Clippers hater. You're right, I can't see Klay coming here.


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toohipcliptoslip wrote:
SGA You ain't seen nuttin yet. Tobias is in the same house as Leonard but not in the same room. Can we make up in salary for him vs Leonard to pay for other good players. Tobias is a quite good SF.

Tobias is definitely talented but not even nearly as good on the defensive end of the ball nor has that dog/killer instinct like Kawhi. I'm having a hard time wondering why he isn't demanding the ball late in games. Everything was all Lou Williams in the final minutes of regulation and in overtime. If you ask me he's not in the same house as Kawhi. He is knocking on the door/ringing the doorbell though.


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The problem with Leonard is what will we have left after we get him? Everybody is touting Jerome. If he is as good as everybody thinks things will be interesting. Part of his decision could be a decent SG which we don't have. Who wants to trade Lou?


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toohipcliptoslip wrote:
The problem with Leonard is what will we have left after we get him? Everybody is touting Jerome. If he is as good as everybody thinks things will be interesting. Part of his decision could be a decent SG which we don't have. Who wants to trade Lou?

The nice thing is Lou is already in the cap picture with us having the two max slots. Tobias Harris isn’t, so it will be interesting to see how it works out with him and the Clippers for the future.

If J-Rob can become a solid contributor his shooting and also potential playmaking will be very nice to have next to a star like Kawhi. Love this season and also excited for the offseason, great time to be a clippers fan!


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I like Klay, but no way Klay over Leonard. While you can't just get an all-time shooter like Klay, that level of talent is more possible to get than the Kawhi level of talent. Klay is not the same dynamic defender that these guys are / can be, he's solid, but not at that level. Also Robinson is supposed to project to be that shooter / scorer type.


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Yeah Leonard is better but I just worry about selling the whole farm. I think it's 50/50.


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Clemenza wrote:
Klay's pop is heavy in his life. He won't allow him to play for the Clippers. I think we're in play for Durant.

-as for the topic.. SGA is going to be one of the best two way players in a couple of years. He doesn't even have any strength yet. Wait until he hits the weights over the summer.

totally agreed, and the way I lay talks about the clippers sometimes, it just feels like there’s some heavy grudge there


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How many Clippers have blocked Draymond Green? Shai, and Harrell. GREAT defensive players. Remember Blake's defense? I mean his complaining and whining.... Jerry West, you are the best! We have players who know they are not bigger than the team. Look at what Shai did to Draymond....poked the ball lose and sent the game into overtime.We dont' need Klay. His father was a Laker and he will never be a clipper!


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laboy wrote:
How many Clippers have blocked Draymond Green? Shai, and Harrell. GREAT defensive players. Remember Blake's defense? I mean his complaining and whining.... Jerry West, you are the best! We have players who know they are not bigger than the team. Look at what Shai did to Draymond....poked the ball lose and sent the game into overtime.We dont' need Klay. His father was a Laker and he will never be a clipper!

Yup loved that play. Draymond never recovered from those blocks that he had a mental breakdown


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JudahDub wrote:
totally agreed, and the way I lay talks about the clippers sometimes, it just feels like there’s some heavy grudge there

Well, warriors used the Clippers as motivation when they were coming up with Mark Jackson.

Only fitting that their downfall also happened against the clippers


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JudahDub wrote:
totally agreed, and the way I lay talks about the clippers sometimes, it just feels like there’s some heavy grudge there
No, it's just typical for someone who has grown up in a culture of being a Lakers fan. My sister was engaged to a Lakers fan in the past, and he once told me "I would give up the chance of the Lakers never winning another championship if that meant the Clippers never get one either." Listen to Ice Cube or any of those old school fans, and their perspective of the NBA landscape is basically that L.A. should only have one team, and that the Clippers are a "San Diego" team. That last criticism makes me laugh as Lakers fans are too stupid to realize that the Lakers don't come from Los Angeles originally either. In fact, their fans forget that they came from the part of the country called Minnesota. I used to listen to Mychael Thompson all the time, and there was one game where the Clippers completely destroyed them by like 50 points. The entire game Thompson was chirping about how the Clippers didn't need to do that, and that it was unnecessary. I have a feeling that he was probably taking little Klay to Lakers games when he was young and brainwashing him to be a loyal Lakers fan, which means hating the Clippers.


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Agent0 wrote:
I like Klay, but no way Klay over Leonard. While you can't just get an all-time shooter like Klay, that level of talent is more possible to get than the Kawhi level of talent. Klay is not the same dynamic defender that these guys are / can be, he's solid, but not at that level. Also Robinson is supposed to project to be that shooter / scorer type.

Klay is a very good player but he has only been all Star twice for a reason. He’s an elite shooter but not necessarily an elite scorer. He’s a solid defender but not a great rebounder or playmaker. I think Jerome if he puts in the time and effort could be as good as Klay.

Also I don’t think allay Thompson is a max player. He can play well but isn’t a #1 option guy. Whenever he plays without Steph Curry his overall performance goes down as well


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As far as Draymond, it's too bad that Trezz couldn't have done the Mutumbo finger wag. BG was afraid of Draymond. Trezz is only afraid of his Mama with a switch.

I grew up in Indiana where 15 below without wind chill was not unusual. I'm sure Toronto is that cold. Believe me, all things otherwise equal, it's a bit*h when at 30 below your tires start to freeze. You can spit and it freezes before it hit the ground. Does Leonard ski of surf?


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toohipcliptoslip wrote:
Yeah Leonard is better but I just worry about selling the whole farm. I think it's 50/50.
We’d be pursing both in free agency with a max type offer (which I question for Klay), it would require the same sacrifices to get either one in that situation.


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Good point, I'm convinced

I posted this on another thread but it was SGA who picked Draymond's pocket.


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toohipcliptoslip wrote:
Good point, I'm convinced

I posted this on another thread but it was SGA who picked Draymond's pocket.

The kid is good and getting better! Now you can finally understand why I was so high on him and saying he should be getting minutes even ahead of Beverley and Bradley.


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jarca wrote:
Well, warriors used the Clippers as motivation when they were coming up with Mark Jackson.

Only fitting that their downfall also happened against the clippers

Right? it would be so fitting if that happened. I don't like to be cynical in general, but it would bring me joy if that team broke up. Starts with Green


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toohipcliptoslip wrote:
As far as Draymond, it's too bad that Trezz couldn't have done the Mutumbo finger wag. BG was afraid of Draymond. Trezz is only afraid of his Mama with a switch.

I grew up in Indiana where 15 below without wind chill was not unusual. I'm sure Toronto is that cold. Believe me, all things otherwise equal, it's a bit*h when at 30 below your tires start to freeze. You can spit and it freezes before it hit the ground. Does Leonard ski of surf?

Yeah, what made the situation with Blake worse is that he was so hesitant to stick up for himself against Z-bo or Draymond, but he was so willing to punch a 5'9" athletic trainer...what a bad scenario. Trezl looks like he doesn't take sh#t


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SGA is already outstanding defensively, as a rookie. It's crazy to watch him on the defensive end because he's still a little bit shy which makes him patient, but he could probably force more turnovers on that end of the floor if he were a little more aggressive (like Beverley). The cool thing is, his length allows him to recover quickly whenever he gets beat, so he doesn't need to be overzealous on defense the way PB is. He still has a ton of room for improvement despite already being so good on that end, It's amazing!


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