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Milos is out the door. Maybe back to Europe. https://sportando.basketball/m/en/usa/nba/277670/clippers-milos-teodos ic-not-expected-to-continue-together-next-season.html


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I really liked him but was hurt way to much to get a true assessment. Wish him the best of luck. Now Rivers Jr needs to opt out!!!!


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Good. Constantly injured and a turnstile on defense. Way overhyped.


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Good. Now Doc Jr and DJ could go the same path.. that'll be great.


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Milos is a good fella but like I said he was a burden for the Clips. Zero defense did shot somewhat okay but turned over the ball a lot. Now time to get rid of DJ and Rivers.


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Milos is a good player but he is not built for NBA.


clipperboy24
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pedroskinny wrote:
Good. Now Doc Jr and DJ could go the same path.. that'll be great.

I wouldn’t have minded keep Milos but agree 100% on rivers jr and DJ


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6Mil off the books! Highly likely we get a PG in the draft now.


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cobra wrote:
Milos is a good player but he is not built for NBA.

I think he could be a great bench player, but very hard for him to keep up with NBA level guards when it comes to speed and athleticism.


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As much as I liked him, I hope they means we sign Wallace.


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It would have been nice to see Milos without the injury.

The plantar is a really hard injury to play through. I remember in the preseason and first few games, he appeared to be a much better defender than I'd anticipated. Once he got that injury, defense and rim attacking was over for him. I think he would have been a solid PG in this league if healthy. That injury hurt him a lot.

Good luck, Milos.


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SamMays wrote:
It would have been nice to see Milos without the injury.

The plantar is a really hard injury to play through. I remember in the preseason and first few games, he appeared to be a much better defender than I'd anticipated. Once he got that injury, defense and rim attacking was over for him. I think he would have been a solid PG in this league if healthy. That injury hurt him a lot.

Good luck, Milos.

We tried. He was better suited as a role player on a contender. Here though there's no reason for him to be on this roster anymore. On the positive note, we are free of $6 million.


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Not sure how much credence we can put into this. Sounds like another Doc Rivers-inspired rumor to push Milos out the door. If Milos is gone, then Doc can go with his dream line-up with his son, Austin Rivers, and Patrick Beverley.

Really, if you think about it, Clippers should start Milos and Patrick Beverley, bring Lou Williams off the bench for major minutes. Tyrone Wallace, Sindarius Thornwell and Jawun Evans, now with a year's experience, gain more developmental minutes with their rookie salaries. No need for a $12 mil player who gets minutes at the expense of the others because his father''s the coach.

If Austin remains, this season will be about Doc giving his son even more minutes so that he can justify another gargantuan contract for his s on.


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I think we bring Bradley back.


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If we trade Tobias Harris and #12 and #13, it begs the question whether the Clippers go for the kill and re-sign both DeAndre Jordan and Avery Bradley.

Their starting line-up would be Danilo Gallinari (ugh), Kawai Leonard, DeAndre Jordan, Avery Bradley, and Patrick Beverley. If you can't out shoot'em, you have to hold down the score.


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With Milos, we have to remember how great he looked during the pre-season, so much so, that Doc was forced to place his son on the bench and start Milos and Beverley. Milos played at such a speed that Austin couldn't keep up and was stumbling to the ground. Once Milos and Beverley got hurt, Doc put Austin in the starting line-up and kept starting Lou Williams or Milos to make up for Austin's deficiencies. But what Doc made sure to do was slow the ball.

This is why we watched Austin Rivers saunter up the court with his herky-jerky style, and then hand the ball to Blake Griffin and stand there. Blake couldn't pass over the top of the defense, so he'd dribble around, penned in by Austin. He'd either jack up an ill-advised shot or pass it to Austin, who'd pass it to someone with scant seconds left. All of this activity ensured that Austin would receive the second most minutes on the team regardless of how he played.

We saw glimpses of Milos's potential in the last game that he played, where he was involved in many plays. He had the brilliant flip over his head pass to DeAndre for the slam just before he got hurt for the rest of the reason. If you get rid of Austin and let Milos, Beverley, Lou, Tyrone, Sindarius and Jawun play together, I think we don't have to worry about our guards.


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His body is just not meant for 82 games season. Maybe he can play for a contender where his minutes will be reduced to 15 minutes or less


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jarca wrote:
His body is just not meant for 82 games season. Maybe he can play for a contender where his minutes will be reduced to 15 minutes or less

c/s

plus there was always rumors of him having a bad diet not to mention I'm positive the guy doesn't put in any work in the weight room in the summer or on off days.


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rick3262 wrote:
Not sure how much credence we can put into this. Sounds like another Doc Rivers-inspired rumor to push Milos out the door. If Milos is gone, then Doc can go with his dream line-up with his son, Austin Rivers, and Patrick Beverley.

Really, if you think about it, Clippers should start Milos and Patrick Beverley, bring Lou Williams off the bench for major minutes. Tyrone Wallace, Sindarius Thornwell and Jawun Evans, now with a year's experience, gain more developmental minutes with their rookie salaries. No need for a $12 mil player who gets minutes at the expense of the others because his father''s the coach.

If Austin remains, this season will be about Doc giving his son even more minutes so that he can justify another gargantuan contract for his s on.

there's a lot going on this off-season. We have many guards, and many of them are really not suited well for a starting role. Beverley is a defensive pest but is really deficient at scoring. Milos was a solid passer but bad defender and average scorer. Lou Williams can score, but you really want a guy like that on the bench. Austin really is an energy guy with not one skill that stands out. Bradley is a mystery to me as i rarely got to see him play at all. you add all the g league guys and the rookies from last year and we have a log jam in the back court. The FO has some trading to do because we have way to many players


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rick3262 wrote:
Not sure how much credence we can put into this. Sounds like another Doc Rivers-inspired rumor to push Milos out the door. If Milos is gone, then Doc can go with his dream line-up with his son, Austin Rivers, and Patrick Beverley.

Really, if you think about it, Clippers should start Milos and Patrick Beverley, bring Lou Williams off the bench for major minutes. Tyrone Wallace, Sindarius Thornwell and Jawun Evans, now with a year's experience, gain more developmental minutes with their rookie salaries. No need for a $12 mil player who gets minutes at the expense of the others because his father''s the coach.

If Austin remains, this season will be about Doc giving his son even more minutes so that he can justify another gargantuan contract for his s on.

Gosh, I really hope this isn’t true.

I think as some posts above stated, if we trade for Kawhi we are going to resign Bradley and DJ. With kawhi in the mix I’d be fine with keeping DJ just as long as we get rid of Rivers JR. the starting lineup would be all defensive and hen to have Lou coming off the bench, would be fun.


sz123456
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He was supposed to be our Steve Nash Sad Poor guy just not built for the NBA. His fasciitis injury was simply shocking when it happened, he was literally walking as if buying groceries and suddenly he was on the ground. Wish him the best.


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Regardless of what we do and draft I’m hoping the Clips resign Montrell and Ty Wallace


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Suns are interested in Clippers point guard Milos Teodosic. Maybe we can get a trade going.


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I'll keep it short and simple, he sucked.... byeee


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realbull17 wrote:
Suns are interested in Clippers point guard Milos Teodosic. Maybe we can get a trade going.
weird. They are rebuilding, but if we can get a pick from them why not. If they don't want to give picks, do they have anything of value to us for trade for Milos?


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pageC4 wrote:
weird. They are rebuilding, but if we can get a pick from them why not. If they don't want to give picks, do they have anything of value to us for trade for Milos?
I was told Tyler Ulis or a 2nd rd pick.


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realbull17 wrote:
I was told Tyler Ulis or a 2nd rd pick.
I would rather we hold out for a 1st rounder, but who knows we may not have any takers


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pageC4 wrote:
I would rather we hold out for a 1st rounder, but who knows we may not have any takers
But right now the Clippers aren't focus on Milos Teodosic. Dallas in heavy talks with the Clippers to acquire DeAndre Jordan.


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realbull17 wrote:
But right now the Clippers aren't focus on Milos Teodosic. Dallas in heavy talks with the Clippers to acquire DeAndre Jordan.
that's good to hear. What's the 411 right now with Dallas. What are they offering?


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that's good to hear. What's the 411 right now with Dallas. What are they offering?
preliminary talks of Wes Matthews & picks but that's just a starting off point. We'll see the end result when the trade actually happen.


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pageC4 wrote:
weird. They are rebuilding, but if we can get a pick from them why not. If they don't want to give picks, do they have anything of value to us for trade for Milos?

They aren’t just rebuilding anymore, they are full fledged expecting to compete next year or the year after. When they made the trade for Bridges and gave up that Miami unprotected 1st rounder they are on board to aggressively compete. I could see Milos playing really well there with the high flyers and offensive options.

We have no need for Ulis, but a 2nd rounder or two would be nice.


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realbull17 wrote:
preliminary talks of Wes Matthews & picks but that's just a starting off point. We'll see the end result when the trade actually happen.
the guy we need back in return is Dwight Powell,


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LAbreakers wrote:
the guy we need back in return is Dwight Powell,
He probably is included. We just don't know until he is traded.


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Doesn’t getting Powell mean we are letting Harrell walk or trading Boban? Can Wes Matthews play SF still?


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clipperboy24 wrote:
They aren’t just rebuilding anymore, they are full fledged expecting to compete next year or the year after. When they made the trade for Bridges and gave up that Miami unprotected 1st rounder they are on board to aggressively compete. I could see Milos playing really well there with the high flyers and offensive options.

We have no need for Ulis, but a 2nd rounder or two would be nice.

that would restock what we gave up to get SGA


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realbull17 wrote:
preliminary talks of Wes Matthews & picks but that's just a starting off point. We'll see the end result when the trade actually happen.

Why would Dallas include picks? Has Wesley Matthews' game declined so much that they need to include picks to get us to take his 18-million for the year?

I just looked at his stats. Apparently, he has declined quite a bit. Smile


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SamMays wrote:
Why would Dallas include picks? Has Wesley Matthews' game declined so much that they need to include picks to get us to take his 18-million for the year?

I just looked at his stats. Apparently, he has declined quite a bit. Smile

Yeah he sucks now overall. Could be a contributor but has struggled with injuries and overall game decline, still is a very good 3pt shooter which would be nice.


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Icecoldclipper wrote:
Doesn’t getting Powell mean we are letting Harrell walk or trading Boban? Can Wes Matthews play SF still?
we need bigs and Powell is a (very) decent pf/c, and.... we don't need another sg, i.e. Matthews....


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Trezz is going to be an all star this year or next. Not resigning him is insane. How many points can he score in how few minutes? A f*cking lot. Who since Elton Brand have we had a player who we could give the ball to and say "Score me some points" and he did REAL FAST? Not BG, not DJ. He has potential to be a franchise player. He is as athletic as BG WAS and as DJ is. Look at clips of his dunks. He is more dangerous against a double team in the post than DJ and is equivalent to BG. He has better fundamentals than either and his hook shot cannot be defended .He also has a mean streak. He has longer arms than BG so a better defender. He has huge hands and better handles that DJ. We gave BG a year or two to develop an outside shot.Give him a year. He has (attempted) to lead a fast break meaning that his ball handling skills may be OK. Is he a play maker? Who knows but it's worth the gamble.

If he can play PF, he I$ our future not KL (but I would like to see them together).


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toohipcliptoslip wrote:
Trezz is going to be an all star this year or next. Not resigning him is insane. How many points can he score in how few minutes? A f*cking lot. Who since Elton Brand have we had a player who we could give the ball to and say "Score me some points" and he did REAL FAST? Not BG, not DJ. He has potential to be a franchise player. He is as athletic as BG WAS and as DJ is. Look at clips of his dunks. He is more dangerous against a double team in the post than DJ and is equivalent to BG. He has better fundamentals than either and his hook shot cannot be defended .He also has a mean streak. He has longer arms than BG so a better defender. He has huge hands and better handles that DJ. We gave BG a year or two to develop an outside shot.Give him a year. He has (attempted) to lead a fast break meaning that his ball handling skills may be OK. Is he a play maker? Who knows but it's worth the gamble.

If he can play PF, he I$ our future not KL (but I would like to see them together).

I like Montrez but he isn’t near the player you are saying. He will be a solid contributor but he isn’t a super star or even all star IMO.


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clipperboy24 wrote:
I like Montrez but he isn’t near the player you are saying. He will be a solid contributor but he isn’t a super star or even all star IMO.
He is right though when he says it would be insane if we don’t sign him. I’d say it’s a no brainer.


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clipperboy24 wrote:
I like Montrez but he isn’t near the player you are saying. He will be a solid contributor but he isn’t a super star or even all star IMO.
Montrez's situation, along with Harris, are quite tricky. We basically got both at the exact time they matured. They are nearing the end of reasonably priced contracts and are soon to be up for a big pay day. There are a lot of decisions to be made by the front office


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Dirtydunks wrote:
He is right though when he says it would be insane if we don’t sign him. I’d say it’s a no brainer.

If we can get him for $12mm per year or less then it’s worth it. If not I don’t think so, he is more energy player than consistent starter


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High energy and starting aren't mutually inconsistent. If he were 6'11"/ 7' he would eat DJ like Texas brisket. Given a year and 2'" he probably could eat BG for lunch. He's an athletic Zbo. Again how many points can he score in a few minutes? I don't know but a lot. He has more skills that DJ and given a jumper, as good as BG. He has better footwork. He will be a better defender than BG.

What 2 guys can stop him in the post and he's a good passer. He's 6'8" but he plays 6'10". Is there one glaring deficiency in his game considering his time in the NBA?


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His only problem as a center is when he goes against players that are taller and use their height against him. Clippers need him because without DJ, he becomes our only shot blocker. If he had a taller, skilled C who could play alongside him, and allow him to play PF, he'd be fine. This is why Doc Rivers was reluctant to play the offensively challenged DJ and Harrell together.


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He's not a C he's a PF I hope. As C - on the bench.


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toohipcliptoslip wrote:
He's not a C he's a PF I hope.
That’s correct...and a damn good one.


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Dirtydunks wrote:
That’s correct...and a damn good one.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.clipsn ... zl-harrell

Here’s a great article that sums up how I feel about Montrezl both strengths and weaknesses. The current weaknesses are what separates him from being a great PF or even Center: lack of outside shot, mediocre defender, high energy in limited Burt’s often over expending his energy leading to a sub, not a great passer and often doesn’t pass once he gets the ball in the post, only made 62% FT. Don’t get me wrong I really like what he does, but currently he’s not a full time starter, he could become that but will have to grow a lot of his game first


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clipperboy24 wrote:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.clipsnation.com/platform/amp/2 018/5/4/17318660/2017-2018-clippers-exit-interview-montrezl-harrell

Here’s a great article that sums up how I feel about Montrezl both strengths and weaknesses. The current weaknesses are what separates him from being a great PF or even Center: lack of outside shot, mediocre defender, high energy in limited Burt’s often over expending his energy leading to a sub, not a great passer and often doesn’t pass once he gets the ball in the post, only made 62% FT. Don’t get me wrong I really like what he does, but currently he’s not a full time starter, he could become that but will have to grow a lot of his game first

He sounds like a perfect backup big. Thank god Doc isn't the GM any more. If Wesley is worth 6-million a year, he'd have to believe Harrell is worth a max deal.


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pageC4 wrote:
Montrez's situation, along with Harris, are quite tricky. We basically got both at the exact time they matured. They are nearing the end of reasonably priced contracts and are soon to be up for a big pay day. There are a lot of decisions to be made by the front office

Places like Milwaukee, Charlotte, Sacramento and other second level cities tend to take these guys and overpay them for fear they will go elsewhere. Their goal is to maintain a level of mediocrity for their fan base, realizing that challenging for a championship is very unlikely.

We're in Los Angeles. We need real stars. If Harrell or Harris want too much money, we have to move on, believing that we can find players of that, or near that ability, later. As we have seen, overpaying players, even very good players or stars, sentences a team to continued mediocrity. Never pay any player more than he's worth in terms of wins and losses. Figuring out where those limits are is what GM's and scouts get paid for.

I love both of those players and at the right price, both should be kept. At the wrong price, both should be let go. We should not be forced into the trap of escalating salaries based on what other, more desperate teams, are willing to pay. That's why you have to build your base from the draft.

So, here is my guess at to where that line is, based on nothing but my own intuition and hardly any study at all. Harris, 20-million. Harrell 7-million.


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