Clippers May Need To Decide Between Ty Or C.J. (P. 2)

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pageC4
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That video on Blake Griffin's. Toughness lmfao classic! Where the hell was this on?


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Clemenza wrote:
I'm hearing the last 3 years of the deal are non guaranteed... smh

Is Ballmer the owner or is it Donald Sterling?

I see, yeah I would

Turn that down.

Either that or Jerry West is advising to save all our money and trying to swing at someone during free agency.


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JudahDub wrote:
I see, yeah I would

Turn that down.

Either that or Jerry West is advising to save all our money and trying to swing at someone during free agency.

Jerry and company are playing hardball with Ty thinking he might take the bait for the amount they are offering. My opinion is hey does get signed over CJ. CJ is a better shooter but he didn’t shown any good signs these two last games.


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Clemenza wrote:
I'm hearing the last 3 years of the deal are non guaranteed... smh

Is Ballmer the owner or is it Donald Sterling?

Yes that and he would get the minimum of 550k the first year but not guaranteeing the last 3. I’m sure he can get more with other teams so I can’t blame him for not accepting.


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If true and Ty has turned down a deal, then he's looking for one of two things. A better deal in hopes of staying here, or a run at restricted free agency where the market might give him a better deal than the Clippers offered. If he gets to restricted free agency, there could be teams willing to overpay for his potential. There often are. If that's the case, he will be going somewhere he's projected to get big minutes.

Doc paid Wesley 6-million a year. Ty is better. Other teams could offer him something in that range. He'd be a fool not to play this out unless the Clippers step up with significant guaranteed money. He's already proved he belongs. He's going to get a good deal. Hopefully, with us.


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For this season the Clippers will likely only offer the minimum, the luxury tax and being a repeat taxpayer factors in. Signing him this season is only necessary if the Clippers want to have him for the playoffs, but he can play the final 10 games of the season after the G-League season is over. Being a restricted FA allows the Clippers the match all offers, but of course, the Clippers can also open up negotiations with him again after understanding what the cap situation truly looks like next season in terms of who is opting out, who is staying etc.

While I would love to have him in the playoffs, this team is not a contender and there is no need to make any rash contract decisions. If he's still going to be a Clippers RFA, then the team should proceed wisely.


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Agent0 wrote:
For this season the Clippers will likely only offer the minimum, the luxury tax and being a repeat taxpayer factors in. Signing him this season is only necessary if the Clippers want to have him for the playoffs, but he can play the final 10 games of the season after the G-League season is over. Being a restricted FA allows the Clippers the match all offers, but of course, the Clippers can also open up negotiations with him again after understanding what the cap situation truly looks like next season in terms of who is opting out, who is staying etc.

While I would love to have him in the playoffs, this team is not a contender and there is no need to make any rash contract decisions. If he's still going to be a Clippers RFA, then the team should proceed wisely.

while I agree that rash decisions are unnecessary, the premise that we aren’t a “contender” and thus can throw the season away is one that I hate. That can realistically apply to all except Houston and GS in the West. Everybody else is even...should all teams take that same approach? We have the third best record in the association since gaining a semblance of health and can beat anybody, possibly even Houston, this year if healthy. We have as good a shot as we would have without making any changes from last year’s roster which are very slim, having CP and Blake wouldn’t have made a difference.


cisco805
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We should take Wesley’s 6 mil and give it to Wallace. 😂😂😂.


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I would love to sign both of them, but how would we have room to sign either one of these guys past this year. We get 2 first round picks this year in a very good draft class. Right now we would pick 12 and 14.


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HarperGlory wrote:
I would love to sign both of them, but how would we have room to sign either one of these guys past this year. We get 2 first round picks this year in a very good draft class. Right now we would pick 12 and 14.

You make a great point. We need to worry about roster spots. Maybe keeping Ty right where he is the best solution for now. As long as we don't lose him, I am cool with riding with what we've got. That way, we get to see what players need to go so we can see where we are at the end of our season. Aside from Lou and Ty, all other guards are expendable to me in terms of going forward next season.


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More than anyone, I would for us to just unload Austin and Wesley


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Dirtydunks wrote:
while I agree that rash decisions are unnecessary, the premise that we aren’t a “contender” and thus can throw the season away is one that I hate. That can realistically apply to all except Houston and GS in the West. Everybody else is even...should all teams take that same approach? We have the third best record in the association since gaining a semblance of health and can beat anybody, possibly even Houston, this year if healthy. We have as good a shot as we would have without making any changes from last year’s roster which are very slim, having CP and Blake wouldn’t have made a difference.
Not making a rash decision about signing Wallace is not throwing away the season though. I'm not saying they quit, but if they can't come to an agreement, then it's not a situation where you force it


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Per source, reason 2-way Tyrone Wallace hasn't been converted to NBA contract is dispute over NBA contract terms. Clips can unilaterally convert him to rest-of-season contract, but want him on a longer-term, team-favorable deal he won't agree to


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cisco805 wrote:
We should take Wesley’s 6 mil and give it to Wallace. 😂😂😂.

Dude it’s not funny when it’s true lol. That’s what’s sad


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How about Sindarious?


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toohipcliptoslip wrote:
How about Sindarious?

I think Doc should start using Sindarius and Jawun, they are equally talendted with Ty and CJ and are already in the roster.


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cobra wrote:
I think Doc should start using Sindarius and Jawun, they are equally talendted with Ty and CJ and are already in the roster.

Agree. I like Evans better than Kilpatrick he actually presses the ball full court. My only gripe with thornwell is that he’s tentative at times in the offensive end and it stagnates the offense. But with time I think he’ll be more aggressive


toohipcliptoslip
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As far as cap space what's the difference between Thornwell and Ty? Few people yet alone rookies could stay on LeBron.


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I agree both Thornwell and Evans need more minutes. Both are likely keepers, but need playing time to get better. This is a good year for that.


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Mistwell3 wrote:
I agree both Thornwell and Evans need more minutes. Both are likely keepers, but need playing time to get better. This is a good year for that.

Exactly, that’s how Doc develop Austin, put them in the court often. Treat them like they are his son. Austin sucks most of the time until he learn. And I promise I will not use the word “nepotism”. Because they have potential.


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jarca wrote:
Agree. I like Evans better than Kilpatrick he actually presses the ball full court. My only gripe with thornwell is that he’s tentative at times in the offensive end and it stagnates the offense. But with time I think he’ll be more aggressive

That tends to happen when you are a rookie and don’t get minutes most of the season. Thornwell if he continues to develop his shot may be a Trevor Ariza type. Solid rotational player we can get on cheap rookie contract.


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First, let's think of what we need. Number one is to sign Treezl. We need a PG. We don't need a bunch of SG's. Will Austin opt out? What will we do with DJ? We have Gallo for a year. Yeah play Gallo against some big ox PF - right. As far as Sindaruis, he's a no brainer. He's big and tough and didn't pee in his shoe when he guarded LBJ and he's cheap. Ty goe$ elsewhere.Too much money. Sindarious is a good gamble. Maybe we can dump some expiring contracts. Milos not a bad BENCH player. Evans is a question. He may be fool's gold. At his size he will get consistently blocked in the paint. Running at his speed, he may be injury prone. He has to shoot.

If he gets a mid range shot will TREEZL be our superstar? Don't bet against it.


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I saw the comeback game from Tyrone wallace for the Aqua Caliente Clippers.

Check the 4th quarter

https://www.facebook.com/nbagleague/vid ... 142730289/

Awesome game from Tyrone, damn we don't get him for the playoffs. He can be a difference maker. Sad


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