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LAC_12
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As we've approached ASW, I thought I'd take a look at the remaining season to see how we fair for the post season... and it seems to be a tight window. People can double check my work, because I was a bit rushed for this, but this is what the remainder of the season looks like for us:

Feb. 22 at Golden State

Feb. 23 at Phoenix

Feb. 27 at Denver

Feb. 28 v Houston

Mar. 2 v New York

Mar. 4 v Brooklyn

Mar. 6 v New Orleans

Mar. 9 v Cleveland

Mar. 10 v Orlando

Mar. 13 at Chicago

Mar. 15 at Houston

Mar. 16 at Oklahoma City

Mar. 18 v Portland

Mar. 20 v at Minnesota

Mar. 21 at Milwaukee

Mar. 23 at Indiana

Mar. 25 at Toronto

Mar. 27 v Milwaukee

Mar. 28 at Phoenix

Mar. 30 at Portland

Apr. 1 v Indiana

Apr. 3 v San Antonio

Apr. 5 at Utah

Apr. 7 v Denver

Apr. 9 v New Orleans

Apr. 11 v Los Angeles

I count 14 home games, and 12 away games. 5 Back to backs (2 of which are consecutively away. The top 5 teams in the league at this point (by record) are HOU, GSW, TOR, CLE, SA. We play a top 5 team six times in the season. We are playing seven games against NOLA, POR, DEN, and UTAH. And I count 7 "easy" games against lower ranking teams (of those 7, two are b2b+away games, one is b2b+home).

Needless to say it will be a tough road ahead. I don't want to make any projections without spending more time looking at the schedule more closely. And after a brief look at the schedules for NOLA, POR, DEN, and Utah... it seems we are going to have to play near flawlessly. NOLA (imo) is more likely to be bumped. POR is too unpredictable.

And I remember PaginingDrDrain with his playoff thread, and we had premature notions... but a lot has changed and I wanted to see how we were feeling?


jarca
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This website based on our schedule broke down our chances of making the playoff

http://www.playoffstatus.com/nba/clippersstandings.html

50% chance we end up in 9th place

16% chance we get to the 8th spot


david
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Well, it's kind of crazy how a few games here and there can be the difference between a 3-8 seed or completely out. I think if the guys stay healthy, it's probably a 50/50 chance of making it, and they could even get up to a 5th seed. But it's an uphill battle as the season turned so badly after the solid start, so it's going to be a true testament of this squad's brilliance if they end up making it.


ArtMaggot
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Whatever it takes to see the Rockets in the first round, that is what I want.

So the 8th or 7th depending on where Houston lands.

The round one series will be epic and we will win.


LAC_12
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I can see us going 13-13 without major injuries. Not sure if that will be enough to make it in the West.


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LAC_12 wrote:
I can see us going 13-13 without major injuries. Not sure if that will be enough to make it in the West.

Yup.. We're gonna have to rely on on other teams collapsing but Anthony Davis has been playing out of his mind

We're competing with

Utah- very long team and a defensive nightmare

New Orleans- they have Anthony Davis

Denver- too athletic from 1-5 and can play both end

Portland- Dame and CJ have been on a roll

Clippers- gotta continue on our hot shooting and sharing the ball.

It's gonna be tough!


clipperboy24
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jarca wrote:
Yup.. We're gonna have to rely on on other teams collapsing but Anthony Davis has been playing out of his mind

We're competing with

Utah- very long team and a defensive nightmare

New Orleans- they have Anthony Davis

Denver- too athletic from 1-5 and can play both end

Portland- Dame and CJ have been on a roll

Clippers- gotta continue on our hot shooting and sharing the ball.

It's gonna be tough!

I don’t think we will be able to make the playoffs. The Jazz are finally starting to gel so think they have a better shot of getting in the playoffs than us. Portland has a better team than us don’t see them collapsing. Denver is very good and probably will get even better in a few weeks when millsap gets back. I could see anew Orleans falt ring but they have a better team than us too, so really we may as well try to tank lol. Let’s get in the top 10!


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50% chance the clippers make the playoffs!

I love our odds!

Doc and son in the hot seat!

Jerry West making some good draft pics this year!

We got younger and got rid of those 2 huge, overpaid, and under performing guys in CP3 and Blake!

The more games we play, the more our players get used to each other.

If we peak at the last week, we could take that into the first round and get a surprise first round victory!

I predict 50 wins this season...


JudahDub
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I love how Jerry West is scouting court side in staples center during all star game lol. Get em west


LAC_12
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JudahDub wrote:
I love how Jerry West is scouting court side in staples center during all star game lol. Get em west

hahaaa you saw that too!!


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Don’t underestimate this team. We will make the playoffs if healthy.

Dj’s last 2 games aren’t a fluke. It’s what happens when you surround him with shooters 1-4 who spread the floor. Dj post offense is horrendous, but in the Pick n Roll he is godly because of his athleticism and jumping ability.

With Gallo stretching the floor at the 4 and Harris at the 3 the lane is wide open. Previously you had Blakes man sagging off guarding the paint for the Roll or the 3 sagging off Mbah/ every other 3 who couldn’t shoot.

You will be pleasantly surprised how well we do with the current team and it’s fit.


pageC4
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Good optimism. I'm with many posters here that we will make the playoffs. We have a tough road, but I think if we use our greatest asset wisely: depth, we can surprise a lot of people.


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JudahDub wrote:
I love how Jerry West is scouting court side in staples center during all star game lol. Get em west
West has been every bit as brilliant as we were often led to believe. Even though West won't say or acknowledge it, he was very instrumental in the success of Memphis, Golden State, and the Lakers. This has been single-handedly one of the best decisions Ballmer has ever made.


powersurge95
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They should have given Jimmy Bulter minutes to Sweet Lou!! what a shame


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pageC4 wrote:
Good optimism. I'm with many posters here that we will make the playoffs. We have a tough road, but I think if we use our greatest asset wisely: depth, we can surprise a lot of people.

We're gonna need one guy ( could be Lou again) to keep us in the games when we're just not hitting open shots like the one against Phillies.


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powersurge95 wrote:
They should have given Jimmy Bulter minutes to Sweet Lou!! what a shame

Or Lamarcus’s spot, he was injured the past two games and was on minutes restriction during the all star game. Waste of spaces


LA_Clipper818
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I’m a strong believer we make the playoffs. I feel we’re underrated and don’t realize how well rounded this team is.


A7XDreamTheaterClipps
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I like our chances a lot. People are sleeping on the Clippers just like they did with the Chargers and no one wanted to face them in the playoffs when the NFL season was ending. I think the players know that and they are playing with a chip on their shoulders. This team passes, plays tough defense and hits open shots. There are many different guys that make an impact in games. The first game after the ASW against the Warriors should set the tone. I hate predicting these things, but 4 of the Warriors are coming off an ASG where they were loose and having fun, while the Clippers players might come in to the game a lot more serious and play like they are on a mission, plus there's no one on the team afraid of Draymond Green. I can see us stealing another game from the Warriors on Thursday.


elton_sucks42
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If we miss the playoffs, but magically win the lottery. I wouldn't complain LOL

I really want to see a first round clips vs rockets matchup though.


LAC_12
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ClipperPostman wrote:
Don’t underestimate this team. We will make the playoffs if healthy.

Dj’s last 2 games aren’t a fluke. It’s what happens when you surround him with shooters 1-4 who spread the floor. Dj post offense is horrendous, but in the Pick n Roll he is godly because of his athleticism and jumping ability.

With Gallo stretching the floor at the 4 and Harris at the 3 the lane is wide open. Previously you had Blakes man sagging off guarding the paint for the Roll or the 3 sagging off Mbah/ every other 3 who couldn’t shoot.

You will be pleasantly surprised how well we do with the current team and it’s fit.

Great post... Love the optimism and can see it happening. I am erring on the side of caution! REPPED


LAC_12
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LA_Clipper818 wrote:
I’m a strong believer we make the playoffs. I feel we’re underrated and don’t realize how well rounded this team is.

But do not underrate the schedule either!


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elton_sucks42 wrote:
If we miss the playoffs, but magically win the lottery. I wouldn't complain LOL

I really want to see a first round clips vs rockets matchup though.

Just want to give a HUGE shoutout to an old member, been a while since I've seen your posts here! Nice to see ya back!


Agent0
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Clippers will play well enough to make the playoffs. The question is whether the other teams will also do the same. It's likely to go down to the wire and the Clippers can still play well and not make it just because others do well also. Utah's surge before the All-Star break has added more complication to the situation.


clipperboy24
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Agent0 wrote:
Clippers will play well enough to make the playoffs. The question is whether the other teams will also do the same. It's likely to go down to the wire and the Clippers can still play well and not make it just because others do well also. Utah's surge before the All-Star break has added more complication to the situation.

How can they play well enough to make the playoffs and not make the playoffs? They either play well enough and make the playoffs or don’t play well enough and don’t make the playoffs. That’s why I don’t think the clippers are going to play well enough to get in the playoffs, the other team are just going to be playing better and we will be on the outside looking in.


LAC_12
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Both of you are right... Clippers can play well enough to make the playoffs, but that level depends on how well their competition plays... And vice versa... It may be a roller coaster, it may be close, or one injury or cold/heat streak can change everything.

The only certain statement we can make is that the race AS OF THIS POINT IS CLOSE and our chances are not strong, but not weak.


ArtMaggot
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20-6 on this final run...Go Clippers!


jarca
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clipperboy24 wrote:
How can they play well enough to make the playoffs and not make the playoffs? They either play well enough and make the playoffs or don’t play well enough and don’t make the playoffs. That’s why I don’t think the clippers are going to play well enough to get in the playoffs, the other team are just going to be playing better and we will be on the outside looking in.

Tie breakers perhaps. Technically, they made the playoff record wise but gets kick out due to tie break rules


LAC_12
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Tie breakers perhaps. Technically, they made the playoff record wise but gets kick out due to tie break rules

Yes, but following 24's argument, that would mean that we - in fact - did not play well enough. It is like the argument of ALL THINGS CONSIDERED...


clipperboy24
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jarca wrote:
Tie breakers perhaps. Technically, they made the playoff record wise but gets kick out due to tie break rules

Their record still wouldn’t be good enough on the tie breaker standard. We have a nice core group of players but why not add via the draft and then maybe pick up a good free agent. It’s going to be a fun off season


Agent0
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clipperboy24 wrote:
How can they play well enough to make the playoffs and not make the playoffs? They either play well enough and make the playoffs or don’t play well enough and don’t make the playoffs. That’s why I don’t think the clippers are going to play well enough to get in the playoffs, the other team are just going to be playing better and we will be on the outside looking in.
They will play well enough in the remaining games to put themselves in position to make the playoffs, but they might not play well enough to surpass the competing teams.

I'll give you an example, last season, the Heat won 41 games and missed the playoffs, the Bulls won 41 games and made the playoffs, that's one example, the Thunder had the same issue in 14-15, both they and the Pelicans won 45 games, but the Pels had the tiebreaker. Another example is the 13-14 Suns, they won 48 games, they were one game out of the playoffs, they played well enough to make the playoffs, but the West was just too good that year. If they were in the East that same season, they would have been tied for the 3rd best record in the East, that's another example of playing well enough to make the playoffs in a vacuum, but not making it because of the competition.


LAC_12
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Agent0 I think what 24 is saying (and it is a logic I understand) that just because you have a record that may make the playoffs, does not mean you have played well enough to make the playoffs. If you do not own a tiebreaker with a competing team, then playing "well enough to make the playoffs" would mean avoiding a tie with that team and going up a game on them.

By technicality, that is playing "well enough" to make the playoffs.

Kind of like saying the, "all things considered" viewpoint.

Agree with both of you... still a LOTTA basketball to be played. Looks like it will be a fun/tight race to the finish.


clipperboy24
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LAC_12 wrote:
Agent0 I think what 24 is saying (and it is a logic I understand) that just because you have a record that may make the playoffs, does not mean you have played well enough to make the playoffs. If you do not own a tiebreaker with a competing team, then playing "well enough to make the playoffs" would mean avoiding a tie with that team and going up a game on them.

By technicality, that is playing "well enough" to make the playoffs.

Kind of like saying the, "all things considered" viewpoint.

Agree with both of you... still a LOTTA basketball to be played. Looks like it will be a fun/tight race to the finish.

Exactly you either play well enough to make the playoffs or not.

It is an interesting place we are in, potentially making the playoffs and having an exciting (hopefully) first round playoff matchup or missions out and landing in the lottery a potentially winning that. Both are low odds but hey lightning can strike!


LAC_12
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Just because I am really bored... I took a quick snapshot of the remaining schedule.

We are the team with the least amount of games played (56), which means we will have more games to play between now and the end of the season (not by much, but OKC has played the most @ 59; UTH, DEN, POR @ 58). Puts us at a disadvantage... some of the other stats I spoke about reflect this.

It is desirable to have played more Away games, so that you are traveling less the remainder of the season. UTH has played the most A games (31), we have played the least (28).

From a very brief look at the opponents schedules, I think I remember DEN and UTH having easier competition. I've got my eyes wide open at POR and NOLA.

This last statement was a VERY ROUGH estimation. Beginning comments are imperfect... and I may have made arithmetic errors Wink

So I am a bit nervous moving forward, but we got a fighting chance. DJ will have to keep up his performance, Harris and Bradley will have to maintain a strong support. I fear Lou may not be too consistent. I just hope Gallo can help (as well as Austin and Wes.)

Does not seem like Wallace will get many minutes, but I'll keep an eye out.


LAC_12
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I think as far as players go, more specifically I am looking at Avery Bradley to start carrying more of an offensive load. I would love for Doc to keep Austin at a 25 min mark. But the biggest disparity in statistics (or the one that popped up to me) is that Avery is scoring less - a lot less. Doc should be used to him, perhaps the position is overstaffed currently... but I really hope we figure it out.

Avery can help out this squad a lot more.

I think we are seeing a great Harris, but he is performing as expected. Bradley, imo, has more to give.


SamMays
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The team has looked good since the trade. I love Avery Bradley. The great thing about him is that he can score, but doesn't need to. He just fits.


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LAC_12 wrote:
Agent0 I think what 24 is saying (and it is a logic I understand) that just because you have a record that may make the playoffs, does not mean you have played well enough to make the playoffs. If you do not own a tiebreaker with a competing team, then playing "well enough to make the playoffs" would mean avoiding a tie with that team and going up a game on them.

By technicality, that is playing "well enough" to make the playoffs.

Kind of like saying the, "all things considered" viewpoint.

Agree with both of you... still a LOTTA basketball to be played. Looks like it will be a fun/tight race to the finish.

Yea I understood what he meant, and I get it, but just explaining to him what I meant by playing well enough yet not making the playoffs.

I really wouldn't be mad at missing the playoffs either. If the Pistons miss the playoffs, we don't want them to move up in the lottery because then we don't get the pick, so the only chance to move up and keep the pick would be for the Clippers to be in the lottery themselves. The ideal situation would be miss the playoffs, Pistons also miss, Pistons stay put and Clippers move into the top 3.

That's two lottery picks including a top 3 added to an already solid team. That's the kind of luck you need to build contenders, never underestimate the luck factor.


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Yup! I'm all for tanking at this point. I'd almost prefer to miss the playoffs and take the rest of this season to regroup from all the chaos of trading away our 2 greatest players in history. Hopefully we can get 2 even greater players in this year's draft!


Agent0
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Well, I can't say that tanking is an option. The way to tank is to have bad players, tanking while having capable players doesn't really work, players don't go out there to lose games, and the Clippers can't just start sitting 5 guys a game. Still, if the team doesn't make the playoffs, I won't be mad, so I'm cool with it.


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Things just might have gotten easier if Leonard doesn't come back.

What Kawhi Leonard’s Potentially Lost Season Means for the League


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clipper*joe wrote:
Things just might have gotten easier if Leonard doesn't come back.

What Kawhi Leonard’s Potentially Lost Season Means for the League

well it's certainly going to he easier for the 6th seed, so if we are lucky we might be able to get that matchup.


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SamMays wrote:
The team has looked good since the trade. I love Avery Bradley. The great thing about him is that he can score, but doesn't need to. He just fits.
day by day these trades we made with Houston and Detroit look like the right move. It's just sad that we had so many injuries early on. Had they not happened we might be higher in the standings at the 6th or 7th spot rather than at the ninth. I just wonder who we are going to keep because so many of the players we got in the trades are on a one or two year contract


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LAC_12 wrote:
Just want to give a HUGE shoutout to an old member, been a while since I've seen your posts here! Nice to see ya back!

Been lurking the forums here and there but never really left! Supported this team before cp3 and BG, and will support them after. Good to see you and the usual suspects are still here holding it down.


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elton_sucks42 wrote:
Been lurking the forums here and there but never really left! Supported this team before cp3 and BG, and will support them after. Good to see you and the usual suspects are still here holding it down.

Yup, I know! Great to "see" ya!

On to the topic... I never ever can (deep inside) advocate for tanking. We may be good enough to be a 9th seed, but that means we should fight hard and earn the best record and end up at #9. As many of y'all can guess, and disagree with, I am not much for doing the smart-business move.

It is simple to say when its not my money.


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pageC4 wrote:
day by day these trades we made with Houston and Detroit look like the right move. It's just sad that we had so many injuries early on. Had they not happened we might be higher in the standings at the 6th or 7th spot rather than at the ninth. I just wonder who we are going to keep because so many of the players we got in the trades are on a one or two year contract

Last I looked, we were only 2 games out of third in the loss column. If this team comes together it's entirely possible to be the three seed. Harris is the keeper.

In the backcourt we have five acceptable guards without a really good one. Bradley, Austin, Milos, Lou and Beverly. I would be surprised if more than two come back. All are easily replaceable. Our front court is what makes this team, provided Galinari is on the court.


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elton_sucks42 wrote:
If we miss the playoffs, but magically win the lottery. I wouldn't complain LOL

I really want to see a first round clips vs rockets matchup though.

Would still definitely be an entertaining matchup, although the fireworks will be a lot less with Blake gone.


Agent0
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pageC4 wrote:
day by day these trades we made with Houston and Detroit look like the right move. It's just sad that we had so many injuries early on. Had they not happened we might be higher in the standings at the 6th or 7th spot rather than at the ninth. I just wonder who we are going to keep because so many of the players we got in the trades are on a one or two year contract
Without the injuries Blake also might not have been traded. The injuries opened up the ability for the team to evaluate Blake's impact and for different guys to get a chance to fill in. While it is true that no injuries would mean better seeding, it might also mean no Blake trade and a different looking team.


Agent0
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LAC_12 wrote:
Yup, I know! Great to "see" ya!

On to the topic... I never ever can (deep inside) advocate for tanking. We may be good enough to be a 9th seed, but that means we should fight hard and earn the best record and end up at #9. As many of y'all can guess, and disagree with, I am not much for doing the smart-business move.

It is simple to say when its not my money.

A report like this probably also doesn't make the team want to tank:

https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Jou ... tings.aspx

Ratings are up overall, but Clippers down 42% and are the only good team in that bottom 5. The other teams there are the league's worst teams. So yea, tanking is probably easier to suggest when you aren't playing the bills.


clipperboy24
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Agent0 wrote:
A report like this probably also doesn't make the team want to tank:

https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Jou ... tings.aspx

Ratings are up overall, but Clippers down 42% and are the only good team in that bottom 5. The other teams there are the league's worst teams. So yea, tanking is probably easier to suggest when you aren't playing the bills.

We traded away our only star power in Chris and Blake. Most LA fans are extremely fair weather, how is it even remotely surprising we have dropped off a cliff rating wise. Do you even remember how bad our fan base was before Blake? Even when we made the playoffs with Elton and Sam, Clippers fan were hard to find.

So if Baler wanted to truly be long term minded we need a star and probably don't have the cap to sign one. With that being the case, tanking could help him make more money next year if we got a better draft pick who is a difference maker. It's not all about today, have to plan for tomorrow


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SamMays wrote:
Last I looked, we were only 2 games out of third in the loss column. If this team comes together it's entirely possible to be the three seed. Harris is the keeper.

In the backcourt we have five acceptable guards without a really good one. Bradley, Austin, Milos, Lou and Beverly. I would be surprised if more than two come back. All are easily replaceable. Our front court is what makes this team, provided Galinari is on the court.

So now Lou isn’t even a good guard? What’s a player got to do? That’s ridiculous.


SamMays
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Lou, Austin, Bradley and Milos are all good guards. My choice of words wasn’t great. I meant we don’t have an all star level guard. Lou is having nearly that kind of year, but not quite. And historically he has not played at this level.


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