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Lou Williams, Clippers nearing extension before trade deadline

Extension discussions between guard Lou Williams and the LA Clippers have gathered significant momentum, and a new contract is within reach before Thursday afternoon's NBA trade deadline, league sources told ESPN.

Rival teams were increasingly resigned late Tuesday night that Williams, 31, was exiting the trade market and returning to the Clippers on a multiyear contract, league sources said.


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Lou Williams, Clippers nearing extension before trade deadline

Extension discussions between guard Lou Williams and the LA Clippers have gathered significant momentum, and a new contract is within reach before Thursday afternoon's NBA trade deadline, league sources told ESPN.

Rival teams were increasingly resigned late Tuesday night that Williams, 31, was exiting the trade market and returning to the Clippers on a multiyear contract, league sources said.

He deserves it!


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We need him, we need a veteran to teach our young players. And I hope we keep Bradley too. He is till young if we are looking to get younger.


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Yes, read that his extension can go up to 4 years for $42 million, approx $10 mil a year. That’s a hell of a steal in today’s salary cap. Like others said, we’ll deserved and he’s the primary reason why we’re still competitive.

Lou Williams and the Clippers can negotiate an extension of up to four-years with a total amount of $42M. The extension would reflect 120% of the average player salary and is comparable to Josh Richardson and Norman Powell. Williams benefits from the change in the new CBA that allows a player on a 3 year contract to extend on the 2nd anniversary. Previously, only players that signed a 4 or 5 year contract were eligible. The last date to sign an extension is June 30 and Williams would be ineligible to be traded for 6 months.

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clips4life32 wrote:
Yes, read that his extension can go up to 4 years for $42 million, approx $10 mil a year. That’s a hell of a steal in today’s salary cap. Like others said, we’ll deserved and he’s the primary reason why we’re still competitive. Lou Williams and the Clippers can negotiate an extension of up to four-years with a total amount of $42M. The extension would reflect 120% of the average player salary and is comparable to Josh Richardson and Norman Powell. Williams benefits from the change in the new CBA that allows a player on a 3 year contract....


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Smart move. Lock him in keep us competitive while building this team. Also hoping we can keep Bradley. Gives us a offensive and defensive presence at the 2.


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LA_Clipper818 wrote:
Smart move. Lock him in keep us competitive while building this team. Also hoping we can keep Bradley. Gives us a offensive and defensive presence at the 2.
Oklahoma & Minnesota have been calling the Clips about Bradley. More Thunder than the Twolves. We'll see!😉


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^ If Doc was still calling the shots, he'd trade Bradley for Jamal.


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clippyclip wrote:
^ If Doc was still calling the shots, he'd trade Bradley for Jamal.

This ^^^^^ 😂🤣🤣


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I agree hopefully we get Lou an extension and keep Bradley. Bradley has been battling a groin issue so I’m hoping he will be even better as he gets healthy.


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Lou agrees to a 3 year contract!! Sweet Lou!!


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hell yes !!


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Three year extension with a team option on the third year. Excellent.


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That’s awesome.

Also possible DJ also stays. Hope both their mental states improve the rest of the season.


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Nice move by the FO. Raise his value with the extension and get a better return. Maybe package him with DJ and get that BK pick.


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cisco805 wrote:
I agree hopefully we get Lou an extension and keep Bradley. Bradley has been battling a groin issue so I’m hoping he will be even better as he gets healthy.

But if we trade Bradley doesn't that open up a roster spot for Wallace to get a real contract?


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Nice move by the FO. Raise his value with the extension and get a better return. Maybe package him with DJ and get that BK pick.

I don’t think Lou can be traded for a few months. So I don’t see hat happening.


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Nice prudent deal by the Clippers! Congrats to Lou on finding a long term(-ish) home!


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ClipperPostman wrote:
I don’t think Lou can be traded for a few months. So I don’t see hat happening.

He can only be traded after 6 months. Now his chance to get a 6th man of the year award is coming to town.


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There’s a lot of talent on this team!! I like it! There’s no terrible contracts moving forward. I see the vision Jerry, I see the vision.


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Clemenza wrote:
But if we trade Bradley doesn't that open up a roster spot for Wallace to get a real contract?

Currently we have 16 players including the injured so yes two spots might be eliminated if we keep both CJ and Wallace. I would keep Bradley but we can always move Wesley and Thornwell but getting rid of Bradley puts us at a less defensive guard IMO.


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cisco805 wrote:
Currently we have 16 players including the injured so yes two spots might be eliminated if we keep both CJ and Wallace. I would keep Bradley but we can always move Wesley and Thornwell but getting rid of Bradley puts us at a less defensive guard IMO.

You can have up to 17, as long as two are assigned to G-League. One of those is already on the G-League, so we're fine right now.


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You can have up to 17, as long as two are assigned to G-League. One of those is already on the G-League, so we're fine right now.

Thought it was 15 for some reason. Thanks for the clarification. �'�🏼�'�🏼


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3 years 24 mil. This is the kind of move that really helps a team. We get a good player on a bargain contact. I love this signing. He’s been playing like an All-Star this year but we are still paying like a bench player. Two thumbs up


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I'll believe Lou is a Clipper when the trade deadline passes and he's still here. After all, we've learned to never count anything out when Jerry West involved.

That said, I'm very lucky Lou has been resigned. He's a great guy who seems to have a found a home after bouncing around. He's been instrumental to this team and the growth of the youngsters. Keeping him around the next 3 years is absolutely the right move.


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ClipperDodger1214 wrote:
I'll believe Lou is a Clipper when the trade deadline passes and he's still here. After all, we've learned to never count anything out when Jerry West involved.

That said, I'm very lucky Lou has been resigned. He's a great guy who seems to have a found a home after bouncing around. He's been instrumental to this team and the growth of the youngsters. Keeping him around the next 3 years is absolutely the right move.

He can’t be traded for 6 months since he signed. So he’ll be with us the rest of the year. However he can be traded in the off season.


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3 years 24 mil. This is the kind of move that really helps a team. We get a good player on a bargain contact. I love this signing. He’s been playing like an All-Star this year but we are still paying like a bench player. Two thumbs up

LMAO. Good for the clippers but who is his agent that he got less than Crawford and Austin


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jarca wrote:
LMAO. Good for the clippers but who is his agent that he got less than Crawford and Austin

You need to send him a flowers and chocolate


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http://www.givemesport.com/1252582-in-s ... ed-himself

Contrary to assumptions; Lou Williams's extension will pay him a flat $8 million in each of the next three seasons, with the final season protected for only $1.5 million. The protection on the final season of Lou Williams's extension may be increased if certain performance incentives are met.


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Wow! I cannot believe that we resigned him for only about $8 million per year. We have him for the next three years, which gives potential trade partners more willing to trade for him, but if it should go south and his production decreases $8 million is a steal. Jesus! Can we retire Jerry West's jersey as a Clipper, lol! the guy is slowly starting to be more positively impactful for our franchise than any player or coach ever has.


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I Love Jerry West. Found this interview from earlier on.


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This is a good deal, lower than the MLE, last season is not guaranteed. This allows the Clippers flexibility because he's a very trade able contract, but if he fits into what the Clippers want to do, they can keep him, and he's not a contract that hampers you. Good move Frank.


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jarca wrote:
LMAO. Good for the clippers but who is his agent that he got less than Crawford and Austin

I really think Lou just wanted to finally stay in LA and with this team. Lou knows he could get more, but can you imagine moving your family every year. Lou has also been in the NBA for quite sometime, if he's smart he has investments and money isn't too big of an issue. Shoutout to his agent though haha!!


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jarca wrote:
LMAO. Good for the clippers but who is his agent that he got less than Crawford and Austin
Early predictions are saying the free agent market so not be very good for the non max guys, and there will even be decent players possibly availability for the minimum. Similar to last year where the money dried up and some guys took cheap contracts, this off-season, there just isn't that much cap space available.

Austin Jamal, Anderson, Hill, etc, all these guys who signed in summer 2016 got really lucky. Teams thought the cap would keep spiking, then they made all these signings based in those future projections and the NBA says "actually the cap is barely increasing next season, and not as much as you thought the season after" lol.


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Agent0 wrote:
This is a good deal, lower than the MLE, last season is not guaranteed. This allows the Clippers flexibility because he's a very trade able contract, but if he fits into what the Clippers want to do, they can keep him, and he's not a contract that hampers you. Good move Frank.
I believe that you reward a player who takes less for the good of the franchise. He could have definitely received more but he wants to be in LA and to a certain extent put the Clipper team needs at a comparable level with his own. The last thing you do is trade him and send him elsewhere to a place that he doesn’t want to be because he was considerate enough to put the team needs into the decision making equation. I would bet that within the negotiations he has a verbal agreement from management to try their best to keep him through the duration of the contract. It would be a really poor management move to the turn their back on his willingness and loyalty to the franchise. You do not trade Lou.


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jarca wrote:
LMAO. Good for the clippers but who is his agent that he got less than Crawford and Austin
yeah, that's the problem withe the salary cap issue. Even though the cap has gradually progressed upward, there will be some times where it dips back down. This is why I was not okay when people were claiming that Austin's, Wesley's, or Jamal's contracts were okay because the cap was projected to go up anyway. We got lucky with Lou, but were EXTRAORDINARILY stupid for giving Austin and Wesley those figures. Hopefully we learn to not give guys like that contracts like that ever again. Nevertheless, with Doc not being in charge of players signings the possibility of that happening again is slim.


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pageC4 wrote:
yeah, that's the problem withe the salary cap issue. Even though the cap has gradually progressed upward, there will be some times where it dips back down. This is why I was not okay when people were claiming that Austin's, Wesley's, or Jamal's contracts were okay because the cap was projected to go up anyway. We got lucky with Lou, but were EXTRAORDINARILY stupid for giving Austin and Wesley those figures. Hopefully we learn to not give guys like that contracts like that ever again. Nevertheless, with Doc not being in charge of players signings the possibility of that happening again is slim.
Wesley's contract is below what is considered the "average" players contract, nothing really wild about his contract. Austin's is not too bad because he's still young, and trade wise, teams are still willing to take him on, I felt much worse about it when it was offered than I do now. Jamal's was an awful contract, way too old, just not good, even with a higher cap it was a bad deal.


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I believe that you reward a player who takes less for the good of the franchise. He could have definitely received more but he wants to be in LA and to a certain extent put the Clipper team needs at a comparable level with his own. The last thing you do is trade him and send him elsewhere to a place that he doesn’t want to be because he was considerate enough to put the team needs into the decision making equation. I would bet that within the negotiations he has a verbal agreement from management to try their best to keep him through the duration of the contract. It would be a really poor management move to the turn their back on his willingness and loyalty to the franchise. You do not trade Lou.
Well, the front office has a grander vision that we haven't even seem come to full fruition. I would advise people to keep in mind that West may not be finished yet. If Lou is a part of West's vision then great, but if not then maybe it's for the best,


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We also may get lucky. Wes and Austin seem to be playing better than we projected. If Wes could shoot reliably he's definitely worth the $, maybe even more. .

BTW my young friend, a verbal contract isn't worth the paper it's written on. There's a name for somebody who enters into a verbal contract. It's called Screwed.


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Gotcha. I understand there’s no binding contract in a verbal agreement. I don’t really know if it was necessarily discussed, just speculation on my part. One thing I do know is that in my world a man’s word means something...call me old fashioned or naive if you’d like. I’m pretty sure Jerry has that same school of thought though.


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Insane contract. Does he not have an agent or??


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That's the going rate for scorers off the bench who don't defend. Do realize that Crawford had a very good contract until Ballmer lost his mind and paid him 14 million, at which point we were lucky to get him out of here.

Lou is playing at a career high level. He's so much better than Crawford, but he's not worth what we paid Crawford on that last deal. That deal was just a big mistake.


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Lou’s been getting a bad rap for defense. He gets a ton of steals and is not hurting us at all...unlike Milos.


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SamMays wrote:
That's the going rate for scorers off the bench who don't defend. Do realize that Crawford had a very good contract until Ballmer lost his mind and paid him 14 million, at which point we were lucky to get him out of here.

Lou is playing at a career high level. He's so much better than Crawford, but he's not worth what we paid Crawford on that last deal. That deal was just a big mistake.

I think the reality is less money will be available this offseason and although this deal we got for Lou is really low, I think more players (like DJ) are going to get paid much less than they think. Maybe we could keep DJ at $18mm or less, that’d be pretty decent, but I’d still prefer a center with more offensive skills


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That's the going rate for scorers off the bench who don't defend. Do realize that Crawford had a very good contract until Ballmer lost his mind and paid him 14 million, at which point we were lucky to get him out of here.

Lou is playing at a career high level. He's so much better than Crawford, but he's not worth what we paid Crawford on that last deal. That deal was just a big mistake.

Lou Will definitely plays defense better than JC ever did. Still lacks strength, height and athleticism but he's extremely crafty defensively, knows when to double team and plays the lanes very well. Steal of all steals for the Clips. Huge win for Lawrence Frank and the FO.

Crawford's deal was a mistake no doubt, but Lou is on a completely different level than JC or JR Smith who received a similar deal to Crawford's.


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Kyrie Irving averages 24.7 PPG, 3.6 RPG, and 5.0 APG. Makes $19M per year

Lou Williams averages 23.3 PPG, 2.5 RPG, and 5.3 APG. Makes $8M per year

I know it's just stats, but it sort of exemplifies what a good deal this is for the Clippers.


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Lou Will definitely plays defense better than JC ever did. Still lacks strength, height and athleticism but he's extremely crafty defensively, knows when to double team and plays the lanes very well. Steal of all steals for the Clips. Huge win for Lawrence Frank and the FO.

Crawford's deal was a mistake no doubt, but Lou is on a completely different level than JC or JR Smith who received a similar deal to Crawford's.

I would say thatJR Smith's deal was also a huge mistake. When you can't get rid of a guy, or nobody wants him with his contract unless you include a first round pick, you know you've made a mistake.

I also believe players are realizing this is a bad year to be a free agent. DJ would probably be well advised, assuming he's with us after tomorrow, to take his 24-million next year and see what happens in 2019. Would love to have DJ back for several years at 18 million. He's been so durable and a real defensive leader.

I would love to see what a front court of DJ, Gallinari and Harris could do together over some time. I think it would be one of the best front courts in the league, and this is after giving up Griffin.


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I would love to see what a front court of DJ, Gallinari and Harris could do together over some time. I think it would be one of the best front courts in the league, and this is after giving up Griffin.

We do not need to spend 20 million on a center. That was our biggest problem. We acted as if DJ was LeBron when we went to his home to change his mind. What we need is a center who can pick up the offense if and when Gallo goes down because he will. What we need is a serviceable center who can do a little of everything, not just a rebounder making 20 million+. That is too much of a salary locked up in that position. That would make Gallo and DJ as our highest paid players to compete. Would you start a rebuild with Gallo and DJ being the highest paid players on a team? I sure wouldn't. What about the players that will need a new contract? Harrell? Harrell is going to take a chunk and I'd rather use some of DJ's money to make that happen.

The rumor is that we're offering DJ a 2yr contract with a partially guaranteed 2nd year. There is a reason why we're doing that. I think the team has made it's decision that while they still like DJ,he isn't a long term solution. With that said, I want him to play out the season with us.


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Most of what I say is predicated on DJ coming to terms on a significantly lesser deal. At 24 million a year, he becomes a liability rather than an asset.


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slestack11 wrote:
Kyrie Irving averages 24.7 PPG, 3.6 RPG, and 5.0 APG. Makes $19M per year

Lou Williams averages 23.3 PPG, 2.5 RPG, and 5.3 APG. Makes $8M per year

I know it's just stats, but it sort of exemplifies what a good deal this is for the Clippers.

Certainly production wise it is very good. Also Kyrie will be making $30+ million on his next contract. So obviously Kyrie has far more value with age and size etc, but getting a player who gives you similar production numbers wise, while making a lot less is good. Also it's not one if those good cases where a player has good ptss/rebs/ast, but they are actually bad numbers when you take everything else into account like efficiency and turnovers.


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