Clippers vs. Oklahoma City Thunder Game Day 2018-01-04 (P. 2)

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LAC_12
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Defense without fouling = perfect. What we need!


PagingDrDrain
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Blake can't guard anyone. He is literally a large child. He is the culture issue with this team and the defensive problem. DJ has to do his work to box out Adams and Blake is too busy watching or crying to help this team.


Shaa-Maan
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there is no way westbrook isn't juicing. There is no way a human being can play that way and not get tired...


Shaa-Maan
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the clips played harder, and most of the time better. OKC just shot better.


PagingDrDrain
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It's called passion. When you play with heart, you don't run out of fuel. Our team doesn't have this.


Clemenza
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PagingDrDrain wrote:
Blake can't guard anyone. He is literally a large child. He is the culture issue with this team and the defensive problem. DJ has to do his work to box out Adams and Blake is too busy watching or crying to help this team.

He didn't foul Westbrook on that play tho.. but I agree he's never been the best defensive player by a long shot


PagingDrDrain
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The Clippers defense was garbage. That's why they lost the game. You don't let your opponent score 122+ and expect to win a basketball game.


Clemenza
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CJ Williams is not ready for a game like this.. OKC shooting the lights out though


PagingDrDrain
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Clemenza wrote:
He didn't foul Westbrook on that play tho.. but I agree he's never been the best defensive player by a long shot

Foul or not, he always speaks of himself as a mature professional who doesn't argue calls, because he knows very, very well that it won't ever make a difference. In fact, I'd saying his complaining reputation often works against him. He always pretended to be a the tough guy who doesn't respond when he gets fouled, but when it's crunch time, Blake Griffin is petty.


Agent0
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Stupid call, whatever, doesn't matter anyways


LAC_12
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Shaa-Maan wrote:
the clips played harder, and most of the time better. OKC just shot better.

Nope... disagree. We had poor defense. And we played stupid. It isn't just about playing "hard".


clipfan63
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PagingDrDrain wrote:
The Clippers defense was garbage. That's why they lost the game. You don't let your opponent score 122+ and expect to win a basketball game.
Yeah, defense was horrendous, far too many wide open 3's allowed by the Clippers. I have a bad feeling the next game is going to be very ugly !


SamMays
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Milos out. Team sucks. Done.


PagingDrDrain
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Notice the maturity of our REAL All-Star, DeAndre Jordan? Notice how he had the sportsmanship to speak with his opponents after the game ended and shake hands with folks? Blake ran straight to the locker room like a child who didn't get his way. DJ is a better representative for this franchise and enjoys the game of basketball far more. Blake is the problem everyone. Not Doc, Not Austin, Not DJ, Not Ballmer, NOT NOBODY BUT BLAKE GRIFFIN. Just because Blake sucks, doesn't mean we have to panic and get rid of all of talent for Blake. Blake makes the most money and is an underperforming power forward, not to mention, injury prone. You're delusional if you don't believe that Blake is the problem with this team.


cobra
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After watching few games with Milos, I would say he will not last long in this league, I would rather have Lou re-sign if that is one option and trade Milos and Gallo and sign Jamil and CJ Williams. But who knows what the FO plan.


Shaa-Maan
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not a bad game by the clips. It was close, then the thunder caught fire from 3 in the 4th. The D could've been better but what can we expect with a rotation of Johnson, Williams1, Williams2 , Thornwell and Evans against Westbrook, George, Anthony. 3 of those guys are rookies and with all due respect Lou is not the best defender (but still miles better than Crawford) and Wes is and always will be Wes. Not to mention that the Rim protection that DJ is supposed to bring is missing in action for most of the year.

We shot better from the FT line on significantly more attempts than OKC, had less foul (15-22), had less turnovers, more assists (29-22), won the robounding battle 55-53. The thunder simply shot the ball better. Especially from 3 late in the game. The clips had plenty of good looks that they just unfortunately missed.

The team played hard for most of the game even with the game over with minute to go. Can't be mad about this performance.


BrissyClipper
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Every starter on Clippers were in the - on our +/- where as all starters on OKC were + and that was the difference between the 2 teams tonight. They were more efficient and that's hard to say when they have their big 3 who throw up shots like they are going out of fashion. Our defence was not on tonight. I feel like we showed them too much respect instead of bulldogging like we usually do. Our heart and intensity want on show enough tonight. Also when are we going to get a break with injuries. Is it now time to pull the trigger on LOU and DJ. I love both these guys but I think we lose another few games coming up soon with GSW 2 times and Huston. This will put us back to far I feel. Time to pull the trigger and build for next yr. Say bye to Lou, DJ,Wes and Brice and try sign the others along with draft picks.


cisco805
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Even though clips lost I can say they fought good those 3 quarters until OKC caught fire from the 3 point line. The other factor is they kept Lou at bay by double teaming him and not letting him get his game going. Maybe and I say maybe with the clippers being more competitive, George might consider coming to Clips than the Lakers. 🤔🤔🤔


LAC_12
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SamMays wrote:
Milos out. Team sucks. Done.

This is not on Milos... this loss is due to our team defense. But yes, we do suck.


ClipperPostman
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Not sure if you guys have been following OKC but they have turned into a very very good team since they all agreed Westbrook will run the offense. Melo and George have been way more efficient. Overall the OKC Of today isn't the team that started the season.

Clippers injuries too much to overcome as usual.


LAC_12
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PagingDrDrain wrote:
Notice the maturity of our REAL All-Star, DeAndre Jordan? Notice how he had the sportsmanship to speak with his opponents after the game ended and shake hands with folks? Blake ran straight to the locker room like a child who didn't get his way. DJ is a better representative for this franchise and enjoys the game of basketball far more. Blake is the problem everyone. Not Doc, Not Austin, Not DJ, Not Ballmer, NOT NOBODY BUT BLAKE GRIFFIN. Just because Blake sucks, doesn't mean we have to panic and get rid of all of talent for Blake. Blake makes the most money and is an underperforming power forward, not to mention, injury prone. You're delusional if you don't believe that Blake is the problem with this team.

I didn't want to bring it up, BUT YOU GOT IT!

If one of our stars is to bring a star to LA, its DJ... not BG.

BG is not pleasant to play with or be around... but I know lots of people here love him so, I'll stop.


Clemenza
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PagingDrDrain wrote:
Notice the maturity of our REAL All-Star, DeAndre Jordan? Notice how he had the sportsmanship to speak with his opponents after the game ended and shake hands with folks? Blake ran straight to the locker room like a child who didn't get his way. DJ is a better representative for this franchise and enjoys the game of basketball far more. Blake is the problem everyone. Not Doc, Not Austin, Not DJ, Not Ballmer, NOT NOBODY BUT BLAKE GRIFFIN. Just because Blake sucks, doesn't mean we have to panic and get rid of all of talent for Blake. Blake makes the most money and is an underperforming power forward, not to mention, injury prone. You're delusional if you don't believe that Blake is the problem with this team.

Go ahead and sh*t on Blake but lets not get carried away here.

-And yeah Blake is friends with nobody in the league and DJ is Team USA and a good buddy to a lot of players. Don't mind DJ being the Clippers ambassador at all but the fact remains, is he going to leave us or what's his asking price for us to resign him?


PagingDrDrain
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Clemenza wrote:
Go ahead and sh*t on Blake but lets not get carried away here.

-And yeah Blake is friends with nobody in the league and DJ is Team USA and a good buddy to a lot of players. Don't mind DJ being the Clippers ambassador at all but the fact remains, is he going to leave us or what's his asking price for us to resign him?

DJ should get paid. The Clippers should pay him. He could've been a Warrior by now, he could've been in Dallas learning from Dirk and a franchise that has seen a championship, yet we are lucky enough to keep him. You can't get the Los Angeles life anywhere and I don't think the Lakers are in the hunt for DJ. You underestimate what he has built here. Though with doubtful fans like you, I don't blame DJ for leaving. Blake didn't make the All star game last year.... not because he was injured, because nobody likes him. Fans of other teams realize the huge negative that Blake is, why can't you realize this? We paid Blake top dollar for underperforming, we should pay DJ for all of his efforts. Let's show the value of Blake and trade him! DJ has been putting in work for this franchise. Show some damn respect.


BrissyClipper
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I'm really getting sick and tired of all these injuries. Really don't know how much of this a franchise can take. If we didn't have all these injuries I doubt we are sitting here talking about trading anyone. I honestly believe we would be 4th or even 3rd. Besides GSW and Rockets nobody in the West has been really good. I think if everyone was healthy we could have continued on the great start we had. Yes we would have had some lodes here and there but we would be up there with the front runners. We are a way better team then our record show but unfortunately that is the hand we have been dealt year after year after year. The joys of being a Clipper supporter. Thank you basketball gods.


CLIPSET
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PagingDrDrain wrote:
DJ should get paid. The Clippers should pay him. He could've been a Warrior by now, he could've been in Dallas learning from Dirk and a franchise that has seen a championship, yet we are lucky enough to keep him. You can't get the Los Angeles life anywhere and I don't think the Lakers are in the hunt for DJ. You underestimate what he has built here. Though with doubtful fans like you, I don't blame DJ for leaving. Blake didn't make the All star game last year.... not because he was injured, because nobody likes him. Fans of other teams realize the huge negative that Blake is, why can't you realize this? We paid Blake top dollar for underperforming, we should pay DJ for all of his efforts. Let's show the value of Blake and trade him! DJ has been putting in work for this franchise. Show some damn respect.

The Lakers would be scary with DJ.


CLIPSET
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I admire the way the Clippers have fought through adversity. WES JOHNSON SUCKS!!! Wouldn't be mad if Dekker and Wilson took ALL his minutes. How the hell did he get another contract to stay on this team? Mind boggling. Blake Griffin is not a go to player. He's a disappearing act in the 4th quarter. What a cupcake. Forget the LA lifestyle, send him to Indiana or somewhere else, anywhere! Props to Lou Will!!


cobra
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I don't know why a lot of people here expect that we will win a game every night when everybody knows we are short handed. Blake or Lou or DJ can't carry this team with second round rookies vs all star and veteran player. It's not because of Blake or the defense it's because thunder played well and they barely missed and we can't buy a bucket, they played hard in my opinion, Okc is just too much for us.


clipper*joe
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PagingDrDrain wrote:
DJ should get paid. The Clippers should pay him. He could've been a Warrior by now, he could've been in Dallas learning from Dirk and a franchise that has seen a championship, yet we are lucky enough to keep him. You can't get the Los Angeles life anywhere and I don't think the Lakers are in the hunt for DJ. You underestimate what he has built here. Though with doubtful fans like you, I don't blame DJ for leaving. Blake didn't make the All star game last year.... not because he was injured, because nobody likes him. Fans of other teams realize the huge negative that Blake is, why can't you realize this? We paid Blake top dollar for underperforming, we should pay DJ for all of his efforts. Let's show the value of Blake and trade him! DJ has been putting in work for this franchise. Show some damn respect.

Let DJ get paid...somewhere else. He could've been a warrior but wasn't. He could have been a Maverick, but he didn't have the cojones to leave after he made a COMMITMENT. Trade BG for all I care but please stop making this a DJ Vs. BG thing...It isn't. If anything, DJ should thank BG for getting his FG% up because we've already seen what he can do without someone feeding him an easy allyoop. Oh, and DJ isn't going to make the All-star game either. Not after being laid off of his Statefarm commercial with CP3. Not after CP3 left..His bread and butter. We can play this game forever but where will get us? Stop trying to tie BG into the DJ rumors. It serves no purpose.

I have no problem trading BG at all and I am one of his biggest fans...Was one of his biggest fans. It ain't no skin off my shin if they trade him so if the time comes, I won't make this about. "we should trade A instead of B because...".


Agent0
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cobra wrote:
I don't know why a lot of people here expect that we will win a game every night when everybody knows we are short handed. Blake or Lou or DJ can't carry this team with second round rookies vs all star and veteran player. It's not because of Blake or the defense it's because thunder played will and they barely missed and we can't buy a bucket, they played hard in my opinion, Okc is just too much for us.
Agreed. Even if Clippers were fully healthy, OKC has won like 11/14, they are on an upward trend and playing well. Sometimes you just lose, there's no reason to always have to start scapegoating someone and dealing heavy criticism after every loss.


Agent0
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Yea, Blake can lose his temper, okay, it happens, that doesn't mean he's not a star or we should trade him, or any of this other stuff. It's like every game thread there's something about how Blake is doing something wrong and is THE problem for the team. It doesn't even make sense, the team has a lot of issues, and trying to pin everything on Blake is pretty ridiculous IMO.

How about the fact that every other game someone is injured?


clipper*joe
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Agent0 wrote:
Agreed. Even if Clippers were fully healthy, OKC has won like 11/14, they are on an upward trend and playing well. Sometimes you just lose, there's no reason to always have to start scapegoating someone and dealing heavy criticism after every loss.

Agreed. There is no shame in losing last night. we were competitive with very little after Milos went down.


Clemenza
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PagingDrDrain wrote:
DJ should get paid. The Clippers should pay him. He could've been a Warrior by now, he could've been in Dallas learning from Dirk and a franchise that has seen a championship, yet we are lucky enough to keep him. You can't get the Los Angeles life anywhere and I don't think the Lakers are in the hunt for DJ. You underestimate what he has built here. Though with doubtful fans like you, I don't blame DJ for leaving. Blake didn't make the All star game last year.... not because he was injured, because nobody likes him. Fans of other teams realize the huge negative that Blake is, why can't you realize this? We paid Blake top dollar for underperforming, we should pay DJ for all of his efforts. Let's show the value of Blake and trade him! DJ has been putting in work for this franchise. Show some damn respect.

You're putting words in my mouth.. When did I say anything negative or anything that you just typed about DJ?? I'm a fan of Blake but I also talk sh*t about him as well when he under-performs. I actually wanted to get rid of Blake after he broke his hand on the trainers face two years ago. And I'm not part of the GM group for the franchise so all that sh*t you're typing has nothing to do with us Clipper fans on this messageboard. I nor anyone on here has anything to do with the fate of DJ on the Clippers.


Keatonsays
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This was a great game to watch. I hate that we lost, but the Thunder were just the better team once we lost Milos. I think we could have pulled it off if Milos hadn't gone out. Great game either way.

Our injuries are one thing but our roster situation is something weird entirely. I don't understand, what's going on with Jamil Wilson? Don't we have a disabled player exception we should be able to use to sign him and Williams? Do we need to release Brice Johnson? We have a bunch of injured guys and don't even have roster space to replace them.

Despite all that we're still an extremely competitive team. The Warriors are going to be rough but I hope we can give them a good fight. We're fiesty as hell if nothing else.


Jerediscool
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Agent0 wrote:
Yea, Blake can lose his temper, okay, it happens, that doesn't mean he's not a star or we should trade him, or any of this other stuff. It's like every game thread there's something about how Blake is doing something wrong and is THE problem for the team. It doesn't even make sense, the team has a lot of issues, and trying to pin everything on Blake is pretty ridiculous IMO.

How about the fact that every other game someone is injured?

Its the same couple clowns who keep blaming Blake. They don't know what they're talking about. Probably 16 year old kids who saw DJ in public once and he said hi and now they think they have a connection with him and think its Blake or DJ. Next.


Keatonsays
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I'm still not understanding Blake's situation with the refs. He's a highflyer superstar but doesn't get any of the calls that players that play much lower gravity basketball get. Then he gets called for ticky tack fouls defensively on the other end. I can't imagine what it's like for him to struggle with injuries, go through all the trouble of rehabbing to get back on the court just to have the refs look the other way when fools are out here grabbing, pushing, and even slamming him to the ground, and the Refs won't blow the whistle. Am I tripping?


Clemenza
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Keatonsays wrote:
This was a great game to watch. I hate that we lost, but the Thunder were just the better team once we lost Milos. I think we could have pulled it off if Milos hadn't gone out. Great game either way.

Our injuries are one thing but our roster situation is something weird entirely. I don't understand, what's going on with Jamil Wilson? Don't we have a disabled player exception we should be able to use to sign him and Williams? Do we need to release Brice Johnson? We have a bunch of injured guys and don't even have roster space to replace them.

Despite all that we're still an extremely competitive team. The Warriors are going to be rough but I hope we can give them a good fight. We're fiesty as hell if nothing else.

I'm literally wondering the same thing. Is he back with the G League affiliate or what? Watching him ball out then abruptly cutting that off and jumping right back to the 'Wes Johnson Stimulus Package' without any explanation sucks. Are we trying to play the guys who are hungry and make a playoff push or are we just throwing sh*t up against the wall and whatever happens- happens?? Yes the injuries are killing us but what direction are we headed in?? Or should I just STFU and blame Blake for everything and call it a night like everybody else is doing?


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