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Clippersfan86
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Hahaha. Never change man. Boy am I glad this isn't around anymore.


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What are the odds that cp leaves houston after a year?


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Jeez is this the result of AAU spoiled basketball era. Players are supposed to be butt hurt now when teammate give them advices that actually make sense basketball wise.


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CP3 is gonna rip his Rocket teammates to shreds. But oh well, Harden wanted him so..


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Maybe this is why there was POSSIBLY discord here. At least we will have fun this season eve at 6th seed. Even if we miss the PO's it should be more fun.


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toohipcliptoslip wrote:
Maybe this is why there was POSSIBLY discord here. At least we will have fun this season eve at 6th seed. Even if we miss the PO's it should be more fun.
LMFAO not possibly, it was a big issue. CP is going to go down as a good point guard, but he was also very divisive, and his style of play was fading out. Even among the fan base, you bring Paul up and he brings debate. I am happy he's not here to be honest with you. The team gave him plenty of years, but as the leader of the team he was just not going to lead it past the point it needed. Maybe he needs to be the second option behind Harden...who knows. I'm glad for once the Clippers organization is about the team and not him.


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Hate to see these guys playing with Jordan... that's "yelling"?

The league is so f***** soft now it's ridiculous.

I'd much rather have Blake gone and cp3 here, but that's me.


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Hate to see these guys playing with Jordan... that's "yelling"?

The league is so f***** soft now it's ridiculous.

I'd much rather have Blake gone and cp3 here, but that's me.

Man, either you are with the Clippers or Chris Paul...make a choice. If you are here then welcome, but please don't be here as a sore loser and bad mouth the organization... just make your choice.

Houston will welcome you if that's your choice. Paul left, clippers tried to resign him...his decision...his move.. He left... Like it or not Blake was the one that " stayed" Paul left to join a superteam


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Man, either you are with the Clippers or Chris Paul...make a choice. If you are here then welcome, but please don't be here as a sore loser and bad mouth the organization... just make your choice.

Houston will welcome you if that's your choice. Paul left, clippers tried to resign him...his decision...his move.. He left... Like it or not Blake was the one that " stayed" Paul left to join a superteam

Lol. I don't have no choice to make. I've been a clipper fan long time. I'm also a fan of basketball period. Also a fan of great players.

No need to bad mouth a guy because he left the team after he gave the clippers 6 straight seasons of playoffs and a winning record.

Maybe you weren't around before cp3. But we weren't winning and def wasn't enjoying the playoffs.

So let's stop with the cp3 bashing.


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Lol. I don't have no choice to make. I've been a clipper fan long time. I'm also a fan of basketball period. Also a fan of great players.

No need to bad mouth a guy because he left the team after he gave the clippers 6 straight seasons of playoffs and a winning record.

Maybe you weren't around before cp3. But we weren't winning and def wasn't enjoying the playoffs.

So let's stop with the cp3 bashing.

been a fan since 2001, Paul didn't give us anything Sam Cassel didn't give. Only a longer span with a longer disappointment. F##k Paul, when was 2nd round success? This team will continue on...it WILL do exactly what it did with him on it. One player does not make a franchise.Paul, Griffin,Redick, Jordan...what have they done to earn loyalty?


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pageC4 wrote:
been a fan since 2001, Paul didn't give us anything Sam Cassel didn't give. Only a longer span with a longer disappointment. F##k Paul, when was 2nd round success? This team will continue on...it WILL do exactly what it did with him on it. One player does not make a franchise.Paul, Griffin,Redick, Jordan...what have they done to earn loyalty?

Cassell was never the defender CP3 is. CP3 gave us elite play/effort on both ends of the floor. It didn't bring us a championship but it brought more consistent success than this franchise has ever seen. You don't have to love him but you don't have to bash him. Greatest Player our Franchise has ever had.


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Pretty hilarious to see CP micromanaging a meaningless exhibition game. I really don't see that relationship playing out well this year. A ball-handling control freak sounds like the worst possible complement to James Harden.


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It's not like Harden doesn't deserve it.


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pageC4 wrote:
been a fan since 2001, Paul didn't give us anything Sam Cassel didn't give. Only a longer span with a longer disappointment. F##k Paul, when was 2nd round success? This team will continue on...it WILL do exactly what it did with him on it. One player does not make a franchise.Paul, Griffin,Redick, Jordan...what have they done to earn loyalty?

Oh brother.... roll


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Don't worry. CPs reputation will not suffer because of things like this. Next thing you know, the rockets fans will start complaining how Harden needs to adjust his game to fit more with CP Very Happy Or how harden needs to be more mature on the court Very Happy

CP is a master of getting fans of his teams on his side...


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Pretty hilarious to see CP micromanaging a meaningless exhibition game. I really don't see that relationship playing out well this year. A ball-handling control freak sounds like the worst possible complement to James Harden.

HA i completely agree... This kind of anal retentiveness has a weird way of getting on your nerves.


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Hate to see these guys playing with Jordan... that's "yelling"?

The league is so f***** soft now it's ridiculous.

I'd much rather have Blake gone and cp3 here, but that's me.

Exactly! Isn't that one of the big reasons why DJ wanted to leave? Because of CP3's yelling? Nothing a little :coddling can make right again. Soothe the ego and make him feel wanted. You also have to remember, Cp3 decided to leave as a leader, to ring chase as a follower , to a team where their best player is playing his position. Unlike the Durant situation, CP3's situation isn't going to come close to that. Cp3 turned in his superstar license to lead in order to be a follower on an already contending team. Real stars pave their own road for others, not hop a ride on someone else's road...But that's just me.

Can't wait till we face them in the regular season. Can't wait to see CP3 throw a tantrum late in the game by taking the ball away from DJ for no reason other than to try to start a fight. See, CP3 has a LOT more to prove...More than the Clippers. There is low expectation for our team so their is a lot more slack than CP3 and the Rockets. If the Rockets do NOT equal what they did last season, and we equal or surpass what we did last season, can you admit we made the right choice?


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pageC4 wrote:
Man, either you are with the Clippers or Chris Paul...make a choice. If you are here then welcome, but please don't be here as a sore loser and bad mouth the organization... just make your choice. Houston will welcome you if that's your choice. Paul left, clippers tried to resign him...his decision...his move.. He left... Like it or not Blake was the one that " stayed" Paul left to join a superteam
I just want to be totally clear that I'm not the only one that read this? This is real, right? So we have people who wanted Paul gone, who are....


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Exactly! Isn't that one of the big reasons why DJ wanted to leave? Because of CP3's yelling? Nothing a little :coddling can make right again. Soothe the ego and make him feel wanted. You also have to remember, Cp3 decided to leave as a leader, to ring chase as a follower , to a team where their best player is playing his position. Unlike the Durant situation, CP3's situation isn't going to come close to that. Cp3 turned in his superstar license to lead in order to be a follower on an already contending team. Real stars pave their own road for others, not hop a ride on someone else's road...But that's just me.

Can't wait till we face them in the regular season. Can't wait to see CP3 throw a tantrum late in the game by taking the ball away from DJ for no reason other than to try to start a fight. See, CP3 has a LOT more to prove...More than the Clippers. There is low expectation for our team so their is a lot more slack than CP3 and the Rockets. If the Rockets do NOT equal what they did last season, and we equal or surpass what we did last season, can you admit we made the right choice?

There was no choice to make, so who cares? The Clippers were trying to choose both Paul and Griffin, and one said he didn't want to continue the experiment. Many Clippers fans wanted some sort of serious change, even if that wasn't the change they wanted, we all wanted some change, it happened, I thought the return was good for the situation, and there's no "did we make the right choice or not". The choice was made for us, so it's actually the best case scenario, because no one can say "well look at those dumb Clippers, they chose Griffin over Paul and now it isn't working out, hahaha" if the season doesn't go great, there's no criticism to be had. There might be some dummy out there who thinks the Clippers were the one that just traded Paul because they don't actually know the situation and might say that if it turns out that way, but they will be just that, a dummy. On the other hand of course, there's also no "told you so" if we do better than Houston, it's just what it is, and we move on and do what we can do be the best team possible.


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I actually prefer Cassell to CP. Sam brought a cohesiveness to the squad. They were cocky. It seemed a We rather than I.That good year the tetam seemed relaxed. Yes he did do the 8 second think but a D League player guarding Raja Bell (do I have this right?) was MDSr's fault and didn't Bell push off.


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Exactly! Isn't that one of the big reasons why DJ wanted to leave? Because of CP3's yelling? Nothing a little :coddling can make right again. Soothe the ego and make him feel wanted. You also have to remember, Cp3 decided to leave as a leader, to ring chase as a follower , to a team where their best player is playing his position. Unlike the Durant situation, CP3's situation isn't going to come close to that. Cp3 turned in his superstar license to lead in order to be a follower on an already contending team. Real stars pave their own road for others, not hop a ride on someone else's road...But that's just me.

Can't wait till we face them in the regular season. Can't wait to see CP3 throw a tantrum late in the game by taking the ball away from DJ for no reason other than to try to start a fight. See, CP3 has a LOT more to prove...More than the Clippers. There is low expectation for our team so their is a lot more slack than CP3 and the Rockets. If the Rockets do NOT equal what they did last season, and we equal or surpass what we did last season, can you admit we made the right choice?

Well written post. BTW have you thought of making this into a t-shirt?

"Real stars pave their own road for others, not hop a ride on someone else's road"

Great quote, but may i ask did you come up with it your self or hear it somewhere? If you did come up with it, that's very catchy.


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Didn't Cicero say that? Yellow_Flash_Colorz_PDT_08


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ClipperPostman wrote:
Hate to see these guys playing with Jordan... that's "yelling"?

The league is so f***** soft now it's ridiculous.

I'd much rather have Blake gone and cp3 here, but that's me.

Well, in this situation, Harden would be Jordan, and CP would be John Stockton. Not sure how Jordan would feel if Stockton joined his team and got up in his face during an exhibition game, let alone a game with any significance.


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toohipcliptoslip wrote:
I actually prefer Cassell to CP. Sam brought a cohesiveness to the squad. They were cocky. It seemed a We rather than I.That good year the tetam seemed relaxed. Yes he did do the 8 second think but a D League player guarding Raja Bell (do I have this right?) was MDSr's fault and didn't Bell push off.

This, I totally understand. Cassell may have been a better leader or at the very least had better leadership methods, but CP3 is still the best player to ever play for the Clippers. I appreciate them both for accepting the challenge of trying to turn the worst franchise in sports history into a winning-respectable ball club.

I think the big difference is that we only had Cassell for 2 years and CP3 for 6. If Cassell pulled that 8 second error or something similar for 6 years and never got out the 2nd round you may have a different opinion of him. We didn't even make the playoffs in Cassell's 2nd year with us..


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Well, in this situation, Harden would be Jordan, and CP would be John Stockton. Not sure how Jordan would feel if Stockton joined his team and got up in his face during an exhibition game, let alone a game with any significance.
Well, I have to say that this year I may watch a lot of Houston games to see how that pans out over there.


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pageC4 wrote:
Well written post. BTW have you thought of making this into a t-shirt?

"Real stars pave their own road for others, not hop a ride on someone else's road"

Great quote, but may i ask did you come up with it your self or hear it somewhere? If you did come up with it, that's very catchy.

Just came up with it on the fly but nothing original. Basically, it takes a special person to lead which is why leading, is a road less traveled. Wish I could take credit but thanks for the compliment.


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This is just my opinion, but I feel like it wasn't Blake or CP3 that made the Clippers what they were after last season. I feel that it was more Doc than either of those players. If we had a new voice, a coach who has a system that is more suited for CP3 and Blake, we would have more success. The team looked like they had nothing to fight for in that Utah series. Once I saw the lack of motivation from every player, I already knew it was a long road ahead, just to beat Utah in a series. Year after year since Doc has been our coach, our offense was soooo predictable, which is why Utah made it look so easy to shut us down. It was always running JJ off screens in the 1st quarter, followed by pick and pop with CP3 and Blake, mixed in with occasional lobs to DJ. Then here comes Jamal and Austin chucking up shots off 1 on 1 isolations with the second unit. I just feel like Doc's system did not utilize CP3's strength and I feel like Blake was just a mid range shooter. I hope they utilize Blake more in the offense.


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This, I totally understand. Cassell may have been a better leader or at the very least had better leadership methods, but CP3 is still the best player to ever play for the Clippers. I appreciate them both for accepting the challenge of trying to turn the worst franchise in sports history into a winning-respectable ball club.

I think the big difference is that we only had Cassell for 2 years and CP3 for 6. If Cassell pulled that 8 second error or something similar for 6 years and never got out the 2nd round you may have a different opinion of him. We didn't even make the playoffs in Cassell's 2nd year with us..

The team imploded when MDSr started Livingston and Q Ross and Magettee and Sam came off the bench.


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This is just my opinion, but I feel like it wasn't Blake or CP3 that made the Clippers what they were after last season. I feel that it was more Doc than either of those players. If we had a new voice, a coach who would has a system that is more suited for CP3 and Blake, we would have more success. The team looked like they had nothing to fight for in that Utah series. Once I saw the lack of motivation from every player, I already knew it was a long road ahead, just to beat Utah in a series. Year after year since Doc has been our coach, our offense was so predictable, which is why Utah made it look so easy to shut us down. It was always running JJ off screens in the 1st quarter, followed by pick and pop with CP3 and Blake, mixed in with occasional lobs to DJ. Then here comes Jamal and Austin chucking up shots off 1 on 1 isolations with the second unit. I just feel like Doc's system did not utilize CP3's strength and I feel like Blake was just a mid range shooter. I hope they utilize Blake more in the offense.
All true points. However, we may never know if this unit might have done better with a different coach. I think these trades and acquisitions give us a second chance at the playoffs. If Doc can just be fair with the rotations and not give preference to Austin, I think this may turn into a really good year.


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All true points. However, we may never know if this unit might have done better with a different coach. I think these trades and acquisitions give us a second chance at the playoffs. If Doc can just be fair with the rotations and not give preference to Austin, I think this may turn into a really good year.

I agree. I think this is going to be a true test for Doc. I like the pieces we have now and honestly, I am more excited this year vs last year because I feel we addressed our weaknesses (age, toughness, size, and roster balance).


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I agree. I think this is going to be a true test for Doc. I like the pieces we have now and honestly, I am more excited this year vs last year because I feel we addressed our weaknesses (age, toughness, size, and roster balance).
We did a lot. It's why sometimes star players may not always be the answer. With the amount of money they take up, you better be sure they can do a lot otherwise that's like 5 decent players you can fill your roster up with that same amount of money.


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clips4life32 wrote:
This is just my opinion, but I feel like it wasn't Blake or CP3 that made the Clippers what they were after last season. I feel that it was more Doc than either of those players. If we had a new voice, a coach who has a system that is more suited for CP3 and Blake, we would have more success. The team looked like they had nothing to fight for in that Utah series. Once I saw the lack of motivation from every player, I already knew it was a long road ahead, just to beat Utah in a series. Year after year since Doc has been our coach, our offense was soooo predictable, which is why Utah made it look so easy to shut us down. It was always running JJ off screens in the 1st quarter, followed by pick and pop with CP3 and Blake, mixed in with occasional lobs to DJ. Then here comes Jamal and Austin chucking up shots off 1 on 1 isolations with the second unit. I just feel like Doc's system did not utilize CP3's strength and I feel like Blake was just a mid range shooter. I hope they utilize Blake more in the offense.
Well if we're focusing on the Utah series, Blake was out after 2.5 games into the series. The offense was partly predictable because Doc rested on his laurels, he had CP who is such a dynamic offensive player and can make a top 3-5 offense out of anything, so he didn't push the limits of the offense after a while.

On the other hand, when people discuss the failings of the offence and compare to other teams, there does also seem to be a neglect for how personnel affects what you can run. People think ball movement in itself does something. What you actually need is decisive ball movement, but actually more importantly you need player movement.

After Blake went down, and even Austin was out or injured most of the series, the options were limited? Dynamic offense needs multiple play makers. You can have all the fancy sets you want if you don't have multiple playmaker they will breakdown and the same guys will have to create the offense , especially when it comes to playoffs.

Pedictable doesn't mean ineffective, but the Clippers offense couldn't be maximally effective if one of the stars is out, at least not against what was the league's second best defense, because the starting lineup only had two on ball play makers. Against a team like Houston, sure, they aren't focused on defense.

The Clippers also actually had a worse issue in that Joe Johnson was Michael Jordan against us.


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... Also it looked like what was the point in beating Utah only to face the powerhouse Warriors squad without Blake and possibly CP3 missing a couple of games as well. He seemed to pull something/limping in game 7 against Utah.


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... Also it looked like what was the point in beating Utah only to face the powerhouse Warriors squad without Blake and possibly CP3 missing a couple of games as well. He seemed to pull something/limping in game 7 against Utah.
The Clippers versus Warriors match ups were beginning to be one-sided in the past few years. When Blake wen't down I wasn't too upset about it because it meant the furthest we would get was a first round out. I think it saved us the embarrassment of getting demolished by the Warriors. Nonetheless, now we have a completely different team, with a lot of depth. It's Doc's job now to use these players wisely, so let's hope that he doesn't mess this up.


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... Also it looked like what was the point in beating Utah only to face the powerhouse Warriors squad without Blake and possibly CP3 missing a couple of games as well. He seemed to pull something/limping in game 7 against Utah.
The accomplishment of getting to the second round, duh! Wink

Yea, we weren't beating them with Blake, let alone without him and/or Paul, even Utah couldn't pull off a game against them and they were the elite defensive team. The matchup against Draymond has been pretty bad for Blake the last three seasons, so unless it drastically changed in the series, there was no chance of even winning a game. That along with DJ at C were the only positions/areas the Clippers could argue for any sort of "advantage", and it was only on the offensive side with Blake.

This off-season, I hope Blake has been watching film and has maybe figured out some way he can be effective against Draymond. I don't expect to beat them in the playoffs or anything like that, but wouldn't it be nice to at least beat a healthy Warriors once, even in the regular season? It's the little thing sometimes Smile. Also Blake dunks and Curry, Durant and Green all in that game, at the same time.


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Don't worry. CPs reputation will not suffer because of things like this. Next thing you know, the rockets fans will start complaining how Harden needs to adjust his game to fit more with CP Very Happy Or how harden needs to be more mature on the court Very Happy

CP is a master of getting fans of his teams on his side...

Yeah, that certainly seems to be true about Chris Paul.


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Just came up with it on the fly but nothing original. Basically, it takes a special person to lead which is why leading, is a road less traveled. Wish I could take credit but thanks for the compliment.
No worries. Smile Oh and BTW, what are you planning for the new CNS graphic. Half of the players on that are gone now, so I can't wait to see what you come up with


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