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toohipcliptoslip
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Depends on if you are the f*cker or the f*ckee .Who is which may be a subject for debate. Every pe*** has two ends and it all depends on which end you are on. But I'm an unrepentant child of the '60's. I hope you see my point though. My neighborhood which is "family oriented" and where people have lived there for 3 generations was almost destroyed by people who managed to circumvent the laws and force us out so I'm biased.

Subject for another day.


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toohipcliptoslip wrote:
Depends on if you are the f*cker or the f*ckee .Who is which may be a subject for debate. Every pe*** has two ends and it all depends on which end you are on. But I'm an unrepentant child of the '60's. I hope you see my point though. My neighborhood which is "family oriented" and where people have lived there for 3 generations was almost destroyed by people who managed to circumvent the laws and force us out so I'm biased.

Subject for another day.

Here you go

http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-lopez-housing-crisis-061 82017-story.html


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Great article, so apropos!


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If development had happened my property values would gone through the roof. Again to my friend PageC4 people do have an ABSOLUTE right to make a profit I really don't want the extra money. We should never sell wealth for money but you have a valid argument. Elena took a second on her house to finance her business. It is in the black but she hasn't paid off her second. She would have lost her business lost her income and lost her home. For better or worse that's what "Development" does. Her problem and rightly so is not the concern of developers.

A discussion for another day but by now you know that I have to be paralyzed with curare to shut up.


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Geez how times have changed. Lived in Inglewood most of my life. As a business owner in the late 90's, I remember attending a meeting with the mayor and other businesses on discussions of how to improve Inglewood. My concerns were lack of a Starbucks and restaurants. A rep from Starbucks stood up looked me in the face and said "there will never be a Starbucks in Inglewood." Yikes, where is she now? Years later Walmart wanted to buy land next to Hollywood Park and the residents voted against it because of Mom and Pops stores. I voted for it because I wanted to see Inglewood grow.

Yes Inglewood has grown and many in the burbs are moving back. Property values are going up as we speak. Streets are being torn up for better transportation. I made a comment and defended Inglewood on this forum a few years ago when Paul Pierce was hosting a party at the Forum. Many made comments about not attending because of safety reasons. I addressed easy accessibility to the 405, 105, 110 fwys, LAX, the beach and how easy it was for me to get there without a car.

I'm looking forward to the Clippers coming to Inglewood and putting it back on the map as a sports entertainment city.

Go Clips

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Geez how times have changed. Lived in Inglewood most of my life. As a business owner in the late 90's, I remember attending a meeting with the mayor and other businesses on discussions of how to improve Inglewood. My concerns were lack of a Starbucks and restaurants. A rep from Starbucks stood up looked me in the face and said "there will never be a Starbucks in Inglewood." Yikes, where is she now? Years later Walmart wanted to buy land next to Hollywood Park and the residents voted against it because of Mom and Pops stores. I voted for it because I wanted to see Inglewood grow.

Yes Inglewood has grown and many in the burbs are moving back. Property values are going up as we speak. Streets are being torn up for better transportation. I made a comment and defended Inglewood on this forum a few years ago when Paul Pierce was hosting a party at the Forum. Many made comments about not attending because of safety reasons. I addressed easy accessibility to the 405, 105, 110 fwys, LAX, the beach and how easy it was for me to get there without a car.

I'm looking forward to the Clippers coming to Inglewood and putting it back on the map as a sports entertainment city.

Go Clips

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I'm glad you wanted to see Inglewood grow but Walmart's destroy communities


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They will not allow one in Culver City.

Are the Playboy Gangsters still around/? They were nice guys sorta.


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Anxioustobebest wrote:
Don't you guys realize that Inglewood rail transit is being built down Crenshaw North and South and Florence East/West that by the time said stadium is built these rail systems will ease the burden on 405. Also, there's allot of infrastructure going on, building of hospitals and businesses with road construction going on in this area. I do believe that Inglewood will surpass DTLA in the terms of entertainment. So this is a great move by Balmer.

Bingo! DTLA does not know what it is doing with its own identity. I think Inglewood is up to SOME good Wink


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What I love most about this plan, Ballmer is not going to stick the taxpayers with the bill.

This news is just as cool as the announcement of his research group creating a website so us citizens can track the spending of federal, state and local government.


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What I love most about this plan, Ballmer is not going to stick the taxpayers with the bill.

This news is just as cool as the announcement of his research group creating a website so us citizens can track the spending of federal, state and local government.

Despite a stagnation on actual court production of the team, Ballmer has done a lot of great things to make the fan experience better. The pre-game LED light show is amazing, and while I was not sold on the mascot early on, he is quite funny.


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Despite a stagnation on actual court production of the team, Ballmer has done a lot of great things to make the fan experience better. The pre-game LED light show is amazing, and while I was not sold on the mascot early on, he is quite funny.

I would've loved that the changes on the court take place first. Even though we're finally starting to see some change with the hiring of Jerry West- with a tech guy as the owner, the 'bells & whistles' were gonna come regardless. That stuff is aimed more for the casuals going to the game. The hardcore want to see results on the court


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I would've loved that the changes on the court take place first. Even though we're finally starting to see some change with the hiring of Jerry West- with a tech guy as the owner, the 'bells & whistles' were gonna come regardless. That stuff is aimed more for the casuals going to the game. The hardcore want to see results on the court
well, sadly we have few hardcore fans. I hate to say it but clippers fans are the worst in the league. 40% are Chris Paul fans who will be wearing a San Antonio jersey when he leaves for Texas, 30 % are casual fans who go there just to socialize, 20 % are former laker fans who didn't want to go down with that ship, and 10% are real fans. Part of why I want a rebuild is that Paul brought many fans over, whom could give a sh#t about this team, but getting rid of him would weed out that element. I too care about results, which is why I've never been high on the glorification of win shares, warp, efficiency, or individual stats... This current team is a let down, from Doc, Griffin, to Paul...and I think we need to see the next chapter. We need on court results and that means a different roster.


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Never draw to an inside straight. If we keep this team together that's what we're doing.

You really can't blame the fans. They were promised Lob City, they were promised a championship team. All they got was a big Clipper cluster f*ck. They saw us lose when there was a 99% chance we should win. They watched us choke over and over. Us hardcore fans expect cluster f*cks but you cannot attract new fans/customers with that level of performance. I expect a Mexican soap opera. New fans expect good Basketball and they haven't gotten it. Don't blame the new fans. We used to f*ck up with style and expertise. Now we just f*ck up Where is George McInnis? At least he never promised to be good. Sometimes I wish we would have kept Mo Williams and an uninjured EJ. Remember when he and BG were the baddest boys on the block? With this team there is no drama.


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This is a true Clipper fan

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well, sadly we have few hardcore fans. I hate to say it but clippers fans are the worst in the league. 40% are Chris Paul fans who will be wearing a San Antonio jersey when he leaves for Texas, 30 % are casual fans who go there just to socialize, 20 % are former laker fans who didn't want to go down with that ship, and 10% are real fans. Part of why I want a rebuild is that Paul brought many fans over, whom could give a sh#t about this team, but getting rid of him would weed out that element. I too care about results, which is why I've never been high on the glorification of win shares, warp, efficiency, or individual stats... This current team is a let down, from Doc, Griffin, to Paul...and I think we need to see the next chapter. We need on court results and that means a different roster.
The Clippers have some great fans.. This is a metro of 18 million. Don't get it confused, Clippers have a bigger fanbase than a lot of other teams in the league. Its just been a nonstop torrent and avalanche of choking uninspired basketball being played by this team. And is it me but I don't feel like LA ever embraced or even liked CP3 for that matter. Some Laker fans are still mad about the nixed trade when he was supposed to go to them also he hasn't been past the 2nd round. He comes across as a corporate guy. There's not that much to cheer on his side of things. Can't really picture Clipper fans pulling for San Antonio cause Chris Paul is on the team. Really Blake was the beloved guy on the Clipps and in LA. He just didn't make that jump fully. He could've ran the city


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The Clippers have some great fans.. This is a metro of 18 million. Don't get it confused, Clippers have a bigger fanbase than a lot of other teams in the league. Its just been a nonstop torrent and avalanche of choking uninspired basketball being played by this team. And is it me but I don't feel like LA ever embraced or even liked CP3 for that matter. Some Laker fans are still mad about the nixed trade when he was supposed to go to them also he hasn't been past the 2nd round. He comes across as a corporate guy. There's not that much to cheer on his side of things. Can't really picture Clipper fans pulling for San Antonio cause Chris Paul is on the team. Really Blake was the beloved guy on the Clipps and in LA. He just didn't make that jump fully. He could've ran the city
Part of the lack of the embrace of Chris Paul has been in part because the Lakers have such a strong fan base to this day, and they view him negatively because he went to the Clippers. He certainly gets booed every time he goes to Dodgers stadium. However, the same thing happens to Blake and Deandre as well. Part of that is just the sense of possession that Lakers fans have.They feel only they are entitled to represent Los Angeles, they feel as if they are the only basketball team that should be able to play in Staples center, and they feel that once they express interest in a player that targeted player belongs to them already.


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Fans went to see Lob City because they were the "Sexiest" team i the NBA. People came to see the Brand bunch because they were the Blue Collar guys. We have no personality. I still say that Chuck should have been a cholo.


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Part of the lack of the embrace of Chris Paul has been in part because the Lakers have such a strong fan base to this day, and they view him negatively because he went to the Clippers. He certainly gets booed every time he goes to Dodgers stadium. However, the same thing happens to Blake and Deandre as well. Part of that is just the sense of possession that Lakers fans have.They feel only they are entitled to represent Los Angeles, they feel as if they are the only basketball team that should be able to play in Staples center, and they feel that once they express interest in a player that targeted player belongs to them already.

Now a lot of Laker fans loved Blake though when he was the man those first couple of years.. even saying **** like "he's joining the Lakers when his Clipper contract is up" - as they do with every star. Then later it became "he only dunks" until now-present day where nobody gives a sh*t about him. But Blake was really on the cusp of being a beloved LA guy(Lakers or no Lakers) if he would've kept on his trajectory as a player. But Paul was booed and still booed to this very day. He just had to win to win people over. That Houston choke pretty much was a nail in the coffin for this group of Clipper players to win over the city. Not saying we would've beaten Golden State of course, and LA will always be a Laker town, but that was our moment to get a piece of the LA sports pie. And sad to say we haven't recovered from that choke since.


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LA will always be a LAL town but that doesn't mean it couldn't have been a LAC/LAC town until we crapped in our pants. A huge number of fans don't remember Showtime. If Lob City hadn't choked repeatedly and played as touted, younger fans would have forgotten LAL. Remember we should have been close to winning a ring. When they were cookin' they were arguably the most exciting team in the league. BG dunks on Duncan. DJ dunks on the world.. BG and LBJ aka. battle of the beasts BG is or was one of the few guys who was as strong as LBJ and as explosive. Watch CP break ankles. The youngsters saw BG's face everywhere, even more than Kobe.


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toohipcliptoslip wrote:
LA will always be a LAL town but that doesn't mean it couldn't have been a LAC/LAC town until we crapped in our pants. A huge number of fans don't remember Showtime. If Lob City hadn't choked repeatedly and played as touted, younger fans would have forgotten LAL. Remember we should have been close to winning a ring. When they were cookin' they were arguably the most exciting team in the league. BG dunks on Duncan. DJ dunks on the world.. BG and LBJ aka. battle of the beasts BG is or was one of the few guys who was as strong as LBJ and as explosive. Watch CP break ankles. The youngsters saw BG's face everywhere, even more than Kobe.

Exactly.. LA is a Laker town and rightfully so but the metro area here is huge and Lob City was on the verge of exploding. Yes you've got hardcore Laker fans and you have hardcore Clipper fans in the city- Lakers with the bigger fanbase of course. But with 18 million metro you have the flip floppers-- "The Dodgers are winning, time to buy a Dodger hat" "Rams are back, lets get some Rams gear" "Lakers are back, unpack the old Laker gear" "Lob City is the thing now and their fun to watch, Lob City it is then!" etc. Remember all the Angel gear that came out of the woodworks and covered the city when they went to the World Series. Clippers had the flip flop/on the fence crowd on lock, plus the transplants that we're from places like NY, Chicago, etc who couldn't pull themselves to root for the Lakers were hopping on board too. You just have to win in LA and things will take care of themselves. But of course we never won so.. ehh.


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Now a lot of Laker fans loved Blake though when he was the man those first couple of years.. even saying **** like "he's joining the Lakers when his Clipper contract is up" - as they do with every star. Then later it became "he only dunks" until now-present day where nobody gives a sh*t about him. But Blake was really on the cusp of being a beloved LA guy(Lakers or no Lakers) if he would've kept on his trajectory as a player. But Paul was booed and still booed to this very day. He just had to win to win people over. That Houston choke pretty much was a nail in the coffin for this group of Clipper players to win over the city. Not saying we would've beaten Golden State of course, and LA will always be a Laker town, but that was our moment to get a piece of the LA sports pie. And sad to say we haven't recovered from that choke since.
yeah, i remember that too. Max Kellerman was always bragging about how Blake was going to be a Laker...blah, blah, blah, but when he resigned with the Clippers all of a sudden he was a one dimensional dunker. I think with Blake, he took the criticism to much to heart..he abandoned his in the paint play and began to shoot, which isn't a bad skill to add, but he didn't need to abandon the in the paint scoring all together. That also took some of the edge off of him as a player because he stopped making contact, and people stopped fearing him. I remember Lebron mentioning that he would never try and stop a Blake Griffin dunk because he wasn't crazy...that changed when he started to try and be a stretch 4.


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The Forum has officially announced they are blocking the Clippers to move to Inglewood. The city must back out of the deal or expect a lawsuit from MSG.


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Let them sue.


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the city of Inglewood has an announcement about the Clippers Arena tomorrow. 😊


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OK, the only thing crazier than the Clippers moving to that Inglewood location is the Rams building a stadium there. HAVE YOU BEEN TO A CONCERT AT THE FORUM LATELY? If it is sold out, about 15,000 or so, the traffic is unbearable. And when the Rams play, now you have 60,000 folks committing suicide while trying to leave. Having said that, I don't know where the better alternative is though.


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To stay at staples is a better alternative. If it ain't broke ---.


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They should move the team to Anaheim.


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They should move the team to Anaheim.
When the team announce they was looking to build an Arena. I email the City of Anaheim because they have a huge land on Lincoln/Beach blvd. They told me they reach out to the Clippers. They told me that the Clippers have decline their proposal to be in Anaheim. It looks like Ballmer has no desire to be in Orange County.


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They should move the team to Anaheim.
it would be more convenient. My issue with that though is the Lakers would get a win. They have always wanted us out of the LA area. However, aside from that it would be a great idea because a good deal of our fans are OC residents.


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The Forum has officially announced they are blocking the Clippers to move to Inglewood. The city must back out of the deal or expect a lawsuit from MSG.
keep us updated on this. This will definitely need some monitoring. If the move to Inglewood is blocked i wonder which locations we will consider


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pageC4 wrote:
keep us updated on this. This will definitely need some monitoring. If the move to Inglewood is blocked i wonder which locations we will consider

Based on what I’ve heard on the radio (570), the mayor of Inglewood said that it’s a go for the year 2024. The year when the lease ends with staples center.


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it would be more convenient. My issue with that though is the Lakers would get a win. They have always wanted us out of the LA area. However, aside from that it would be a great idea because a good deal of our fans are OC residents.

Almost every team wants to be in the city center or close to it these days. The hub of Dodgers, Lakers, Clippers, Rams, Kings, USC, LAFC, etc gets the eyes and pub of the city. I'll give the Angels and at times the Galaxy their respect but its out of sight and mind playing on the fringes of the metro area. Low key don't be shocked if this arena is green lit and Ballmer reaches out to the Ducks brash to see if they want to move to Inglewood as well.


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Based on what I’ve heard on the radio (570), the mayor of Inglewood said that it’s a go for the year 2024. The year when the lease ends with staples center.
yeah, let's hope that's the case. The mayor has to sell the process, so I'm not surprised he would say that. However, the biggest concern is whether Dolan's lawsuit will go on and be successful.


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Almost every team wants to be in the city center or close to it these days. The hub of Dodgers, Lakers, Clippers, Rams, Kings, USC, LAFC, etc gets the eyes and pub of the city. I'll give the Angels and at times the Galaxy their respect but its out of sight and mind playing on the fringes of the metro area. Low key don't be shocked if this arena is green lit and Ballmer reaches out to the Ducks brash to see if they want to move to Inglewood as well.
Interesting take. I agree with you that the city center is the place to be. two decades ago it was scary going to downtown. Over the years, it has become, as one member here described it, a mini Manhattan. I have mixed feelings about our move to Inglewood. On one hand, it is great to be free from sharing a stadium with the Lakers and having their fans at our games. On the other hand, downtown is awesome and moving to Inglewood would have us miss out on the constant development and positive transformation taking place.


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I remember when LAL was there. The 405 was backed up half a mile in either direction and it was a PARKING LOT. Now the 405 is WAY worse than in the 80's. The whole city of Inglewood was gridlocked. Century, La Brea, Prairie and everywhere else will be impassible as well as the side streets. There are no trains near there and most people don't have access to a train anyway or won't use them. Downtown is vibrant with clubs and restaurants etc. If you want to take a friend to a LAC game are you going to have a late night dinner or visit Lennox next? Inglewood has never been the safest area to take a stroll at nights compared to Downtown. Maybe they will have to have parking shuttles and have lots in the hinterland. Maybe the city has changed in the last 20 years but I feel safe walking 6 blocks to park Downtown. I wouldn't be too crazy about doing that in Inglewood at 10:00. I met a German tourist who made the mistake of walking east of La Cienega. He had been there maybe an hour before he got shot. Only a flesh wound but what a great story. Most tourists have boring stories about seeing stars' houses.

Yes we share the arena with LAL but also with the Kings and nobody complains. We share the arena with Shania Twain., Nobody complains. In all probability MORE LAL fans would go the Clipper Colosseum.

This is ALL ABOUT money. Ballmer will make a lot more there and ther's no upside for us except bragging rights. Write "Bragging Rights" on your dash and look at it frequently when you're stuck on Century. Hell bring a copy of Moby Dick. You could finish it by mid season. While Steve's first name is not Moby, his last name will be****.


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